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Forums > Living in Kunming > Recourse for problems with missionary colleagues?

@nnoble, OK, they shouldn't. But as for god's army, I'm more worried about the ones currently fighting in the field, and the support they get from the 'souls' that their nations have won.
Yeah, a little off topic, but an attempt to examine the context within which we are all operating. Not to understand the context means not really understanding the elements within it, and their relative importance.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Recourse for problems with missionary colleagues?

@nnoble: I would say that virtually everything can be seen in its political dimension, as well as in various religious dimensions, and that religions is USED by those after power, whether in the political realm or in the economic. However, it is the global economic system is pretty much the dog these days (as in other days), wagging all its tails (political arrangements like nationalism, ideological beliefs including religious ones, media presentations of events and their significance).

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Recourse for problems with missionary colleagues?

@laotou: There's the threat, operates very successfully. Nationalism is the true religion of modern times almost everywhere. I'm not ignoring fundamentalist Christian missionary activity, it's just relatively so much less important.
On the topic: like I said, suggest you pretty much ignore the religious propagandists, they are so outnumbered.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Recourse for problems with missionary colleagues?

Indoctrination in & out of schools and universities: how is the preaching of Nationalism different from the preaching of Christianity or other religions? How is a Nation different from a polytheistic god? Where does most of the indoctrination in schools, and in families for that matter, come from? Is Nationalism dangerous? When someone says or writes that "Botswana invaded Thailand" or "Bolivia and Canada are friends", what is the epistemological character of the nations mentioned? How can 'innocent' young minds resist this indoctrination and think about the issues clearly? At what age are most people 'converted' to virtual worship of the nation as a virtual deity?

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.