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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Any travel buddy heading to Lijian

@Gloria: strongly advise against Lijiang for at least the next 10 days - mass tourism idiocy & high prices. However, if you're going to stay away simply because you're traveling alone, then go anyway.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > China is not as safe as you think.

@Dudeson: first of all my sympathies, as being attacked with an axe by a crazy (no?) sounds pretty crazy - but where did you get your 'control group'? It looks to me you only reported on those of your friends/acquaintances who had been attacked. Maybe all your friends have been attacked and you don't know any foreigners who haven't - but I haven't - got in a fight once but it was at least half my fault, and basically it was a matter of mutual dumbness.
Places are not either safe or not safe - I find China on average, and Kunming in particular, a lot less dangerous than many places I've been. I do recognize the bar-fight (involving foreigner & Chinese men) rate here to be a bit high, but many of these involve cultural misunderstandings on both sides, & obviously it is more the practical responsibility of the foreigner to understand the local culture than vice versa - but don't jump me for saying this, idiocy in bars is not confined to China.
The other problem, which affects one foreign nationality in particular, is the cultural group-think that is sporadically encouraged by the powers that be, which blames innocent, presently-living persons for horrible acts of war committed by others of their nation who are long dead - but this type of thinking is, unfortunately, a product not so much of Chinese culture as of modern national culture.

Anyway, sorry to hear of your bad experience, & I wish you a happy nonviolent Year of the Horse.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Why are you in Kunming/Yunnan?

I strongly suspect that when people use either of the words 'civilization' or 'culture' or both, they are often referring to very different things, & therefore are talking past each other - might be a good idea to try to be more specific.

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The number and attitudes of tour groups have been screwing up Dali for years, and I don't think this move will do anything to improve the situation.

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.