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Forums > Living in Kunming > Where would you go next?

Don't think I'd move to Hanoi, despite the fact that I like the place for its culture, history, other qualities - humidity, climate generally turn me off, except for November or so.

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Forums > Study > Book Club Kunming

I think we're reading Raymond Chandler's collection of short fiction, Trouble Is My Business, for a meeting at 6:30PM at The Park on Sept. 27.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Where would you go next?

@Peter: In 2008 I merely had a little trouble getting a visa in Hong Kong - took about 3 days - and a cop in an out-of-the-way place in Ningxia, where I was traveling during the SARS epidemic, insisted on taking my temperature. No other problems from what you've mentioned. Thing is, Peter, not everything you see as a crisis or potential crisis is seen that way by everybody else.
The Vietnamese: maybe I've made too much of your use of the word 'fight' when discussing a certain Vietnamese mentality - adapt to it, yes, of course, I just don't see it as a big fight.

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Nice article, Ginger, and on a subject that one might not think about until, once one does, it's obvious that it should be explored.
The point about foreigners particularly applies, as you indicate, to people from milk-product-using 'western' countries and, as you indicate, it is one picked up in some southeast Asian countries as well - but foreigners from other areas will be pegged also (e.g., South Asians who use many different 'curry' spices, etc., that are not used so much in China).
And then there is the widespread smell of tobacco, noticeable primarily by those foreigners who don't use it. Baijiu has a particular smell also.

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.