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Forums > Travel Yunnan > 昆明不文明 but some people here have the warmest hearts

I'd forgotten all about the bathrooms. I seem to remember hearing that it was a part one attemt to

become a 'civilised city'.

I guess I just can't accept any place that would rather leave a family with a two-year-old child on the street than allow a foreigner with all the necessary documentation to stay (apart from an ID card). Like I say, I didn't face such discrimination in the 4 previous days while travelling across China.

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > 昆明不文明 but some people here have the warmest hearts

Thanks for the flashback @livinginchina. Totally true. The metro is a be big one for me - most would agree that it's a step in the right direction though some would debate the necessity in a city as small and relatively flat as Kunming. I remember first coming to Kunming in '04/'05 and thinking that I would definitely not like to live there. The area around the train station and the bus stations nearby was particularly nasty. It's a pity that the city 'threw out the baby with the bathwater'. I do miss the street food, outdoor seating, multicultural and generally more laid-back and comfortable lifestyle. I won't miss the endless construction (development apparently)or any other things you listed. I just hoped that the city might have caught up in its acceptance of 'foreigners'. Maybe they can sort out the traffic too. The contrast with more civilised Chinese cities is shocking.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > GoKunming new features and functionality

I hope you're right @livinginchina. I wish I shared your optimism. GoKunming was a lifeline for me when I arrived. Personally, I can't see that it will ever be its old self again and I wonder if there's now a single place to get up-to-date snd trustworthy information. The Facebook groups are okay I guess but I pity anyone that relies on them.

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'Whoa! We were halfway through 2015 before we knew it! Check back soon to see how the final six months of 2015 wrapped up.'
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If you'd like to experience the kind of place described by the article then get there soon! a typical Chinese walkway is being built around the whole area while some pools are already fenced off with the usual over-enthusiastic 'guards'. From the walkway you can't really get a good view of the different pools either. Also, expect the entry fee of Y28 to shoot up once work is completed. As a final point, Baishuitan is small but well worth a visit.

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well done to Irina and the 2 European guys (sorry, I don't know your names). Apparently they were the only foreign team to finish within the time limit and I'm told that only 14 teams completed the course of the 30(?) teams that started.

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The only place worth going for a beer in Lijiang. Small place with a super friendly vibe. Great relaxed hangout for locals and travellers alike.

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a lovely place to stay with great views of Yulong xueshan (JadeDragon snow mountain) from the roof! Beautifully decorated and hosts that make you feel like family. A million miles better than most other places locally. I can't recommend this place enough.

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i thought i'd give this place another try as my usual place was closed today. even though there is now more choice, i was not impressed by the menu. they do have an apparently good range of coffees for up to 80 kuai but even a basic latte is Y26 now. the drinks were OK but nothing special and certainly not worth the money. the place looked somehow cleaner too and was certainly busier! why have so many of the cafes in this area decided that it's fine to raise their prices by so much (in some cases almost double)? i doubt i'll be going back. the 2 stars are because it was just OK and they've obviously made some effort.

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not a bad selection of stuff and some of the staff obviously know their way around a bike. however, the 'special' prices for foreigners and the fact that some of the staff will use a big hammer to fix anything keeps me from going back. you could do better.

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I won't go there again. The yoghurt is tasty and the curries are usually ok (they seem to vary in quality depending on the day and time). What really annoys me is the fact that they can't comprehend that I order dishes to eat TOGETHER... if my curry arrives 30 minutes after all the other dishes it's not really acceptable. Then again, neither is the 1 hour wait for the rest of the food or the incorrect dishes being sent. By the way, why can't I sit on the 3rd floor until both of the other floors are packed full? Has it never occurred to them that I might want a quiet meal and, after all, I am paying for it!