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Forums > Travel Yunnan > 昆明不文明 but some people here have the warmest hearts

@jason - Haha. Apparently, neither do the police, or any of the other people or hotels that I asked. If it were so simple don't you think I would have already done it? Neither can the several Chinese apps that I use on my phone find somewhere suitable. Like I say, I managed quite well in several other Chinese cities on my way to Kunming. Maybe you'd be so kind as to list some that don't have unnecessary Covid restrictions/requirements AND that welcome foreign passport holders.

P.S. 0 posts? I'm honoured to be your first post.

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > 昆明不文明 but some people here have the warmest hearts

Just arrived back in Kunming after a few years in other parts of China. Of all the places I've been, this is the only one where it's near impossible to get a hotel for the night (even after the Police came out to help). Foreigners aren't welcome to travel here. In their defence of this place,

the Police tried to help and the receptionist at the Vienna hotel on Baiyun lu is letting me sleep on the sofa in reception (police approved). They even gave me a blanket. Pity I forgot the mosquito spray and earplugs!

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Moving to Yunnan

I totally agree. Getting a property loan there as a foreign might be a challenge. I bought there in my Chinese partner's name alone for that very reason. You can later change the name on property ownership papers after the loan is paid off. It's also worth remembering that those with a local Lijiang hukou have access to a far wider range of loans and get favourable terms.

Look outside old town area. There can be a significant difference in price for property that's still within walking distance of everything. Renting land (20 years +) and building is also still an option there that you might want to consider.

In any case, there's more to life than money. Best of luck!

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these schemes all seemed like a good idea butthe combination of having the bike lanes full of school kids swerving about carelessly, ebikes going waaaay too fast and the slow moving shoppers makes it much harder and slower to get anywhere by bicycle these days. They clearly need to limit the amounts of new bikes being added and maybe some training or guidelines for the children and idiots who should never be on a bike or ebike in the first place. The situation was bad enough when I only needed to avoid the crazy ebike riders - at least they're more predictable and slower to manoeuvre! As someone above implied, many of these 'issues' should be solved with time... let's hope so.

I've read about a few cities now where the authorities are using local law enforcement to round up bikes that are parked all over pavements or where they're left blocking access or parking spaces etc. As the government scheme was to use parking stations these private companies are being forced out of some places just by laws being applied and enforced.

I seem to remember the fuss when an 'official' LV store in Shanghai was found to be selling copied goods along side the real things a few years ago. Let's hope Apple do better.

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The only place worth going for a beer in Lijiang. Small place with a super friendly vibe. Great relaxed hangout for locals and travellers alike.

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a lovely place to stay with great views of Yulong xueshan (JadeDragon snow mountain) from the roof! Beautifully decorated and hosts that make you feel like family. A million miles better than most other places locally. I can't recommend this place enough.

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i thought i'd give this place another try as my usual place was closed today. even though there is now more choice, i was not impressed by the menu. they do have an apparently good range of coffees for up to 80 kuai but even a basic latte is Y26 now. the drinks were OK but nothing special and certainly not worth the money. the place looked somehow cleaner too and was certainly busier! why have so many of the cafes in this area decided that it's fine to raise their prices by so much (in some cases almost double)? i doubt i'll be going back. the 2 stars are because it was just OK and they've obviously made some effort.

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not a bad selection of stuff and some of the staff obviously know their way around a bike. however, the 'special' prices for foreigners and the fact that some of the staff will use a big hammer to fix anything keeps me from going back. you could do better.

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I won't go there again. The yoghurt is tasty and the curries are usually ok (they seem to vary in quality depending on the day and time). What really annoys me is the fact that they can't comprehend that I order dishes to eat TOGETHER... if my curry arrives 30 minutes after all the other dishes it's not really acceptable. Then again, neither is the 1 hour wait for the rest of the food or the incorrect dishes being sent. By the way, why can't I sit on the 3rd floor until both of the other floors are packed full? Has it never occurred to them that I might want a quiet meal and, after all, I am paying for it!