Does anyone have any news (or even better, recent travel experience) in the upper section of the Lancang Jiang valley?
I'm specifically talking about the several hundred kilometer stretch that passes through Dali Prefecture's Yunlong County (云龙县), Nujiang Prefecture's Lanping County (兰坪县), and Diqing Prefecture's Weixi (维西县) and Deqin Counties (德钦县).
Last time I was near there was in Weixi two years ago, and at that time the single road up the entire valley was under heavy construction, with traffic only being allowed through one day a week, and that under terrible, slow conditions.
I'm wondering if the road is finished now. I haven't seen any news items to verify this.
If it's detailed topo maps you're looking for, I don't think anything's going to beat Google Maps' terrain layer. Zoom in to get 100 m contour lines. However, even it's not perfect. Often times, the roads don't quite show up in their accurate location. This can make a big difference if you're cycling and counting on the elevation data to plan your trip.
There are a couple of other maps I can recommend as well (if you can read Chinese).
One is called 云南省地图册. It's part of the 中国分省系列地图册 series and the publisher is 星球地图出版社。It's about 6x10 in., the lefthand side is green, and the righthand side has a picture of two white pagodas. It costs 22 RMB, and I believe I got it at the bookstore next to Yunnan Normal University.
It's got 170+ pages and the great thing is that it's got a unique map for each of the 100+ counties that make up Yunnan province, which means the scale is quite large (i.e. the resolution is quite detailed).
These county maps are all color topo maps. While they don't have contour lines, they do have color shading according that depicts the elevation profile. This makes for a really nice affect - you can really see where the valleys, lowlands, plateaus, canyons, and mountain ranges are, in a more colorful and visual presentation than the monochrome terrain on Google Maps.
Another map I can recommend is a large, wall map of all of China. It's called 中华人民共和国地形图, it costs 20 RMB, and you can find it on the 3rd floor of the Xinhua bookstore at the corner of Beijing and Renmin roads. While it covers the entire country, it's so large that Yunnan province gets a good square foot or so of map space. It's got both contour lines and elevation-based coloring, so it's good for visualizing all the major (and several minor) valleys and mountain ranges in Yunnan.
Here's the GoKunming article (from January this year) about the Kunming-Hekou railroad, the first portion of which (Yuxi-Mengzi) will open in December this year:
This doesn't exactly make traveling from Kunming to Hekou very convenient. You'd have to first take a cab or bus to the Kunming South Bus Station, take a bus to Yuxi, take a cab or bus across town to the new Yuxi train station, take the train to Mengzi, take a cab or bus to the Mengzi bus station, then a bus to Hekou. All together, that's six separate transportation modal shifts.
Yet it still sounds like fun. The train should be nice and fast. And anything beats the terrible bus ride that is currently Kunming to Hekou, along the interminably slow, old, and congested two lane highway from Shilin to Mengzi. Why the buses take that route instead of through Yuxi, Tonghai, and Jianshui, I don't know. That route, almost all on gaosu gonglu, would be much faster. I've asked the bus driver, and the answer I was given is that the routes are set by the transportation bureau.
Thanks for the info, HFCAMPO. I almost passed through this route coming from the back way, coming down from Haba Snow Mountain, crossing the Jinsha Jiang at Daju (大巨), and then taking the road to Lijiang, but at the last minute I decided to cycle through Tiger Leaping Gorge and back to Lijiang that way. At the time, I thought I'd made a poor decision since I had to pay the 65 yuan to cycle through Tiger even though I wasn't really traveling there, just passing through. I didn't realize that I would have been charged 150 yuan taking the other route, even if entering at the back entrance.
This makes me want to cycle the route, planning to enter after 6pm when the ticket office is closed.
How's the quality of the road on the shorter of the two routes? Is it all paved?
Did you see any signs of the status of construction of the new road to Lugu, which goes past Baoshan Stone city, and crosses the Jinsha Jiang over the new bridge at Fengke (奉科)?
Do you have any pictures of Baoshan that you've posted online anywhere?
If you like trains and history, there are lots of places to enjoy the actual railroad line itself. In case you missed them, I wrote about a bicycling trip along a section of it near the Vietnam border last year, which you can view here:
Other towns that the line passes through include Yiliang (宜良), Panxi (盘溪), Kaiyuan (开远), and Mengzi (蒙自). In all of these cities you can see the old train stations, walk amongst the current locomotives and boxcars in the yards, and no one will stop you.
@dolphin
Yes, I think the shit will hit the fan. By which I mean China is facing at the very least a prolonged recession, or worst. Something akin to Japan's "lost decade" (in reality lost *three* decades). There are just too many forces for this to not happen. Demographic, structural, developmental, geopolitical. The dang knows it, that's why they're preparing people to "weather the coming storm". It's just not normal to have 30 years of nonstop growth. If China wants to have "capitalism with Chinese characteristics" then it can't avoid the periodic crises that are inherent in capitalism.
I'm in China at the moment, but based outside China long-term, and as @lemon lover surmised, I've got no real money to "transfer out".
@Liumingke1234 and @Ishmael I agree it's all very unsustainable. When the shit hits the proverbial fan these places will be the first to go belly up. Symbols of China's early 21st century excess at its peak.
@Ishmael and @Liumingke1234
Not to sound like a capitalist pig here, but this is not a government project. It's a private sector project by a Hong Kong-based property developer. Property developers are in the business of developing property, not funding poverty relief, education, health, etc.
While I don't disagree with you that Kunming has a glut of of unnecessary luxury shopping malls, the urban planner in me has to defend this project purely based on its location. This project is located right on top of Kunming's first and so-far only subway transfer station, at the confluence of the main North-South and East-West trunk line subways. A location like this makes total sense for a big, magnet multi-use project like this. People will be able to come here by subway, reducing the amount of car traffic downtown. This is much better planning than the more suburban shopping malls like those around Dianchi which are more auto-oriented than transit-oriented.
One little geographical typo, though, in the 8th paragraph.
The county referred to as "Diqing" (迪庆县) should in fact be "Deqin" (德钦县) 。 Diqing (迪庆州, or 迪庆藏族自治州 in full) is the name of the Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture to which Zhongdian (中甸) aka Shangri-La/Xianggelila (香格里拉县),Deqin (德钦县), and Weixi (维西县) Counties belong.
This is a really nice new restaurant in Dali. High quality vegetarian and vegan food, varied menu, daily specials. They make their own kombucha, too. The environment is very chill...multiple layers, floor seating, an outdoor courtyard and terrace balcony overlooking the the roofs of the neighbors in old Dali
Recently experienced both very early morning departure and very late night arrival at Changshui. Was worried about making the connection to and from the airport, but both turned out well.
First, the departure. It was 7:30 am. I arranged a taxi to pick me up at 5:00. That he did. Cost: 100 yuan.
The departure was scheduled for 12:30 am, was delayed, and didn't get in until 2:30 am. I was sure I'd have to find a black cab, and wasn't even sure if I would find that. Instead, I was delighted to discover that the Airport Express Bus was still running! For 25 yuan it took me to the train station, where I then caught a cab for the short ride the rest of the way home. I was very impressed by this late night bus. I'd thought the buses only ran till around 11 pm-midnight. I don't know if this is a regular occurrence or not. Maybe, knowing my flight was delayed and there would be hundreds of passengers looking for a ride home, the airport dispatched an extra bus. If so, kudos to whoever was responsible!
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A tale of countryside drinking in Yunnan, or How I killed all the fish
发布者"The Dick"
Looks like the original draft didn't make it through the GoKunming censors ;)
Property conglomerate Hang Lung opens Spring City 66, Kunming's tallest building
发布者@dolphin
Yes, I think the shit will hit the fan. By which I mean China is facing at the very least a prolonged recession, or worst. Something akin to Japan's "lost decade" (in reality lost *three* decades). There are just too many forces for this to not happen. Demographic, structural, developmental, geopolitical. The dang knows it, that's why they're preparing people to "weather the coming storm". It's just not normal to have 30 years of nonstop growth. If China wants to have "capitalism with Chinese characteristics" then it can't avoid the periodic crises that are inherent in capitalism.
I'm in China at the moment, but based outside China long-term, and as @lemon lover surmised, I've got no real money to "transfer out".
Property conglomerate Hang Lung opens Spring City 66, Kunming's tallest building
发布者@Liumingke1234 and @Ishmael I agree it's all very unsustainable. When the shit hits the proverbial fan these places will be the first to go belly up. Symbols of China's early 21st century excess at its peak.
Property conglomerate Hang Lung opens Spring City 66, Kunming's tallest building
发布者@Ishmael and @Liumingke1234
Not to sound like a capitalist pig here, but this is not a government project. It's a private sector project by a Hong Kong-based property developer. Property developers are in the business of developing property, not funding poverty relief, education, health, etc.
While I don't disagree with you that Kunming has a glut of of unnecessary luxury shopping malls, the urban planner in me has to defend this project purely based on its location. This project is located right on top of Kunming's first and so-far only subway transfer station, at the confluence of the main North-South and East-West trunk line subways. A location like this makes total sense for a big, magnet multi-use project like this. People will be able to come here by subway, reducing the amount of car traffic downtown. This is much better planning than the more suburban shopping malls like those around Dianchi which are more auto-oriented than transit-oriented.
The historical evolution of Yunnan's Zhongdian, aka Shangri-la
发布者Great article as always.
One little geographical typo, though, in the 8th paragraph.
The county referred to as "Diqing" (迪庆县) should in fact be "Deqin" (德钦县) 。 Diqing (迪庆州, or 迪庆藏族自治州 in full) is the name of the Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture to which Zhongdian (中甸) aka Shangri-La/Xianggelila (香格里拉县),Deqin (德钦县), and Weixi (维西县) Counties belong.