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Forums > Living in Kunming > GoKunming Censor

I posted about the Urumqi riots and today the post has gone.

Danmairen also posted but it never appeared.

Does GoKunming censor/delete posts on current affairs now?

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Forums > Living in Kunming > All Blocked out!

Facebook, Twitter not working and Danwei still blocked.

Dear Mr. Censor,

Everybody knows there's rioting in Urumqi and frankly speaking most of us really don't care. We just want to get onto Facebook and write pithy comments and look at our friends' crap photos.

You really should concentrate your considerable resources on stopping all the spam coming into my inbox. If you would like, and provide a forwarding email address, I can send you lots of ads for generic viagra, breast enhancement surgery as well as introduce you to the wife of some Nigerian general who wants to spot you 5 million bucks.

With a bigger dick for yourself and a nice rack for your missus plus some spare kuai to splurge maybe you might find something better to do than randomly blocking off harmless websites.

With best wishes to you and Mrs. Censor,

Piers

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Forums > Living in Kunming > kundu stabbing?

The Soho security people were extremely keen to impress upon the police that the stabbing took place outside the club. Their head of security, as with most clubs in the area, has strong connections with the local police. It remains to be seen whether this will be enough to avoid any penalty.

There have been a number of incidents in Kundu and other areas over the past few years.

3 months ago a man was stabbed outside Top One. Last year a man lost his arm after being attacked with a machete outside Cobra. Haoledi KTV near the Hump had a fatal fight 2 years ago and the original Babi closed after 2 people including 1 bouncer died in a massive fight between Babi security (who were famously prone to beating up customers) and a group of WuJing (who are famous for beating up anybody they don't like)

All of the above incidents resulted in closure of the venues except Top One as the fight was not linked to the bar. All have since re-opened though Cobra has moved and changed its name.

@Danmairen - I don't think anybody has been killed at Pandora, indeed it has been open for less than a year.

It's really a bad idea to get into a fight in Kundu or JinMa. People do carry knives and are more than likely to pick up a bottle if they don't have a knife handy. Security don't care unless the fight is inside and will often eject people and stand by as the fight continues outside. In a few cases I've seen security guards join in.

In my time going out and working in Kundu the main (if not only reason) that I have seen foreigners get into trouble is by turning up in the club, not buying a drink and scrounging off other people. When they are invited to a table of local people they drink a lot and hit on the girls and ignore the guys. 3 years ago Top One banned all foreigners from the club after numerous customer complaints.

One guy, not even 20 years old, is dead and another of the same age may well be executed all because of a disagreement over a table. Tragic, pointless and a complete waste.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > kundu stabbing?

It happened outside Soho at about 2am on Sunday night. There was an argument that started inside and spilled out onto the street outside Soho. Two Thais were attacked with a knife, one escaped with minor injuries, the other was fatally stabbed.

The attacker was caught initially by Soho security and handed over to the local police. The knife was also recovered. All witnesses as well as Soho security were interviewed by local police, homicide detectives and the police division responsible for foreign affairs.

Yunnan Normal University and the Thai Consulate were both notified within an hour of the incident and sent people to the police station in the Kundu area.

The police will spend the next few days compiling a case against the attacker and then charge him with a crime. It is unclear whether Soho will be held responsible for any negligence on its part in allowing a knife to be brought into the club.

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The entire match allocation of tickets was sold by the CFA to a private company in Beijing for a sum of around 8 million RMB. That company is now selling tickets through various outlets.

The Yunnan FA have some tickets that they're selling out of Tuodong stadium (Gate 7).

I've also heard that tickets are available for pick-up around 24/25th March but I've been told that tickets will be available from tomorrow. If I get mine tomorrow then I'll post.

I have tickets for sale. Please see my classified entry.

All Grade A tickets have been sold out now and Grade B tickets are running out.

If you want tickets, please contact me asap as, after March 10th, I will be unable to procure more tickets. After that you have to try your luck with the ticket office.

The roast-lunch is on Sunday 26th November not on Saturday. Apologies to anybody who turns up one day early. No slap up lunch on Saturday!!

The number of lunches will be limited so turning up earlier guarantees grub! Lunch runs from 12.30 until 2.30.

Who are you calling eccentric! It's a job ad on behalf of a friend. No need to make it headline news with that sort of intro.

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Update/Retraction:

I went to the new Red Star on Jinhua PuLu last night (they've moved across the road) hoping to have a good steak and a chat with some friends.

From the moment I walked in I had a bad feeling about the place. There were swarms of fuwuyuan all over delighted to welcome us with synchronized yells but nobody seated us. We found a table upstairs and ordered three of their French Steaks and some beers. After waiting 15 minutes our beers hadn't arrived so we called over an indignant waiter who bluntly told us we hadn't ordered any.

Having re-ordered our beers and confirmed how we wanted our steak cooked we began our discussions only for the speaker next to us to crackle into life at full volume. Unable to hear a thing we moved to a table away from the speaker where we still struggled to hold a conversation. We asked the staff to turn the music down which to our surprise they did. Within 5 minutes, however, they cranked the music back up whereupon we again complained that we were eating and unable to hear a thing. Another indignant (and this time belligerent) waiter told us that after 8pm Red Star turns into a bar and thus loud music was a pre-requisite.

We ate up quickly and left.

Whatever charm the Red Star used to have has gone. The new place is huge, the staff are beyond useless and completely unable to answer the simplest question, the bathroom is brand new and looks like it's already been through 30 years of use, the food average and the general feeling is that they don't care at all about customer experience.

After all this time it seems that Bernie was right!

28th Jan 2007

Whilst I'm loathe to defend the Red Star I must point out that 'niche' doesn't equate to 'standards'. If I may point out a few similarities between the two:

1. Both Bluebird and Red Star are multi-level bar-restaurants with roof gardens.

2. Both Blue Bird and Red Star have live music in the evenings (BB a Filipino keyboard-crooner couple and RS a guitarist)

3. Both BB & RS are quiet drinking venues outside eating times.

4. Both BB & RS serve western food, chinese food, Thai food, Italian etc. In fact the menu content is surprisingly similar (RS is perhaps a third or quarter of BB's price).

5. Both BB & RS were designed rustic-style. BB just renovated and RS was renovated badly.

And finally whilst BB may have a 'chef' to RS's 'cook', the RS's cooks, in the most part, used to work as chefs in BB.

The RS is quite plainly an imitation of BB with lower standards. It is the Wimpey to BB's Burger King.

Next time (of if) you go, try the French Steak at Red Star and then head over to Bluebird for the same. Sour and Spicy Noodles, iron-skillet squid, spicy devil fried rice, pizza, pasta, the list goes on....

Pretty much the same recipes but made with lower quality ingredients, presented less professionally and delivered by waiters with a quarter of the IQ, in a setting that as Bernie rightly states could have been knocked up in a couple of hours on Wenlin Jie.

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Red Star is very much in the same niche as Bluebird but not quite as expensive. The restaurant is on 3 floors, I'd recommend going up to the roof terrace for the best atmosphere especially if you want to eat. The second floor is more of a bar with lower ceiling and smoky atmosphere.

I had some pretty good food last time I went to Red Star. In the past though it has been hit or miss. I'd recommend the steak and the chicken burrito isn't bad.

The one thing that brings the Red Star down is the service. The waiters look like they've been pulled out of the Firebird, thrown into uniform and told to stand around and ignore customers. They are masters at avoiding eye contact.

If you like Red Star get one of their VIP discount cards for 100 kuai. The savings tot up pretty quickly.

Oh and don't try the house wine. It's foul (makes Yunnan Red seem like premier cru bordeaux!)

3 1/2 stars for food

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In the past few weeks most, if not all, of the Feiyang branches have upgraded menus and some have renovated. Annoyingly some of my favourite dishes have disappeared to be be replaced with poor but expensive replacements.

From my last visit expect prices to have nearly doubled - I kid you not.

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This is my favourite Feiyang. It's a lot more spacious than the one on Jiaoling Lu.

Other reviewers have given a good description of the food and service. However I have to reiterate the Japanese beef is awesome.

For draft beer fans, they stock KK draft. It's nothing special but it's cold and wet and 15 kuai a pitcher.

Feiyang have discount cards that can get you up to 15% off. Used to cost 100 kuai or sometimes a friendly manager gives you a free one.

Depending on what you order, meals can cost from 20-40 kuai per head (with drinks). I think it's best to go in a larger group so you can get more variety without wasting too much food.

It closes at 2am for late night snackers.