Wet market is a type of food market, it's where locals (and many foreigners too) go to buy their vegetables and meat. They have less of hygiene than supermarkets, but the food is generally fresher as it is sold by the farmers or people close to them in the production chain.
If you haven't yet, you should visit them just for the experience.
One thing we haven't been able to do properly, is (Swedish style) meat balls.
I don't know if it's the meat (from wet market) or what, but the meat-dough always turns up somehow wet. Tried with pork and beef.
In restaurants you sometimes see huge meatballs which get closer and are sometimes actually delicious.
I can do it in my home country, just frying the balls on a pan, but something goes wrong here, and it only works if deep fried in oil. Then it is not the same.
Speaking of Metro, I have learned (to disbelief of some visiting foreigners) that in China their business model is not towards consumers but for restaurants and others in the profession.
My wife tried to go shopping in Kunming Metro, and was turned back due to not having a business card.
My biggest concern about buying meat is the non-existent cold storage in the production chain - or at least in the food markets.
But I trust my wife (a local) with groceries, I just report what I like and not like to eat (after trying) so she knows to avoid it in future. We do eat pork almost daily, chicken or duck once a week.
I have talked about these projects with some Chinese, and their view seems to always be that the developer has offered them one or two apartments, but they want more.
Now, I have no reason to believe that this is the whole truth.
These Chinese I've talked to, admit so much that the apartments given to farmers are nowhere as finished as those going to sales (I don't mean furniture and such extra, but basically all interior work).
I can well imagine something like this conveniently left out of paperwork without the farmers knowing to ask for it.
Dazzer: ""suggest that provision also includes adequate car parking"
I would assume it does, but what constitutus adequate is debatable.
For example in housing developments I would assume that they do it by some assumption of how many resident households own a car on average and then some extra for visitors. But at least in our relatively new development (though still old enough to have "matured"), it seems to be somewhat of a challenge to find parking space by the road.
I would also argue that limiting parking space would deter more cars hitting the roads (which is never a bad thing), if it is accompanied by meaningful penalties for illegal parking.
This would especially reduce meaningless car ownership, ie. for city dwellers who only buy it for status symbol.
Sure these parks are better than nothing. But I would hope the city would also step up on construction supervision in middle of urban developments.
From what I have learned, is that developers are required to allocate certain amount of green space for every square meter they are building.
What happens, is that especially outside the complexes they initially do that, but then after the authorities have checked and confirmed this, they tear it apart and replace with parking space or just empty concrete for damas to dance at.
I would also link this to another topic recently covered on this site, which is a central government team's visit to check whether Kunming now could be considered a "civilized city".
Lot of posts about this have appeared around the city in recent weeks, apparently trying to sell the idea to the general public.
Couple of weeks ago in our neihbourhood we spotted a group of people, who we suspected part of this investigation group, and one thing that they did outside our house was looking in the rubbish bins.
I noted that they pointed out how both "recyclable" and "non-recyclable" bins contained mixed waste. Also when they left the scene, one of the sanitation workers grumped, as if the group had just messed up her work.
So even if rubbish in both of the bins ends up to same place when collected (according to this article anyway), it seemed to be a factor in determining Kunming's "civilized" status that residents should sort their waste properly to correct bins.
Among other things, I'm guessing this explains why they revamped the previously lively bazaar and street food strip of a road behind Carrefour at Longquen Lu / Baiyun Lu intersection.
All pop-up establishments were removed, making the road more accessible to cars, and leaving only those shops and restaurants which have presence in the houses by the road.
About her interpretation of Kunming air - I don't think Kunming air is that bad in comparison to many cities in China, but if she never did (which I don't know) experience smoggy winter day in Beijing or other super polluted city, perhaps Kunming does not compare that well to her experience in US.
Kunming might be all about spring, flowers. and blue skies for someone coming from Beijing, but perhaps not for someone hailing from Maryland?
It's quite subjective matter really.
And when she extends the fresh air to civil liberties, my arguments on that matter with Chinese usually proceed to them saying how they are content and satisfied without them - so why all the hate if someone happens to enjoy those.
The nation just has low self-esteem, and she forgot to consider that.
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Urban re-greening effort to include 37 new Kunming parks
发布者Dazzer: ""suggest that provision also includes adequate car parking"
I would assume it does, but what constitutus adequate is debatable.
For example in housing developments I would assume that they do it by some assumption of how many resident households own a car on average and then some extra for visitors. But at least in our relatively new development (though still old enough to have "matured"), it seems to be somewhat of a challenge to find parking space by the road.
I would also argue that limiting parking space would deter more cars hitting the roads (which is never a bad thing), if it is accompanied by meaningful penalties for illegal parking.
This would especially reduce meaningless car ownership, ie. for city dwellers who only buy it for status symbol.
Urban re-greening effort to include 37 new Kunming parks
发布者Sure these parks are better than nothing. But I would hope the city would also step up on construction supervision in middle of urban developments.
From what I have learned, is that developers are required to allocate certain amount of green space for every square meter they are building.
What happens, is that especially outside the complexes they initially do that, but then after the authorities have checked and confirmed this, they tear it apart and replace with parking space or just empty concrete for damas to dance at.
Interview: Tracking Kunming's trash with Adam Liebman
发布者This was interesting indeed.
I would also link this to another topic recently covered on this site, which is a central government team's visit to check whether Kunming now could be considered a "civilized city".
Lot of posts about this have appeared around the city in recent weeks, apparently trying to sell the idea to the general public.
Couple of weeks ago in our neihbourhood we spotted a group of people, who we suspected part of this investigation group, and one thing that they did outside our house was looking in the rubbish bins.
I noted that they pointed out how both "recyclable" and "non-recyclable" bins contained mixed waste. Also when they left the scene, one of the sanitation workers grumped, as if the group had just messed up her work.
So even if rubbish in both of the bins ends up to same place when collected (according to this article anyway), it seemed to be a factor in determining Kunming's "civilized" status that residents should sort their waste properly to correct bins.
Yunnan's capital scrambles as 'Civilized Kunming' audit looms
发布者Among other things, I'm guessing this explains why they revamped the previously lively bazaar and street food strip of a road behind Carrefour at Longquen Lu / Baiyun Lu intersection.
All pop-up establishments were removed, making the road more accessible to cars, and leaving only those shops and restaurants which have presence in the houses by the road.
It's a shame, in my opinion.
Chinese student apologizes after Maryland graduation speech sparks firestorm
发布者About her interpretation of Kunming air - I don't think Kunming air is that bad in comparison to many cities in China, but if she never did (which I don't know) experience smoggy winter day in Beijing or other super polluted city, perhaps Kunming does not compare that well to her experience in US.
Kunming might be all about spring, flowers. and blue skies for someone coming from Beijing, but perhaps not for someone hailing from Maryland?
It's quite subjective matter really.
And when she extends the fresh air to civil liberties, my arguments on that matter with Chinese usually proceed to them saying how they are content and satisfied without them - so why all the hate if someone happens to enjoy those.
The nation just has low self-esteem, and she forgot to consider that.