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Forums > Living in Kunming > Am I really in a place that bad?

Yes, if you are that in that perhaps

1-2% of people from a developed country working long term in China in a field unrelated to education e.g. manufacturing, engineering,

finance, then chances are you don't have much choice about where to go anyway, as you have to go wherever your employer sends you. But the vast majority of people work in education (the website the article is from is an organisation for placing teachers in China), and can basically choose to go wherever they fancy.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Am I really in a place that bad?

Tiger - when you take out the cities with high pollution in the winter (pretty much all the ones north of the Yangxi and many of the ones south) which will take years off you and your families' life, there aren't that many cities left. If you want comfortable climate too, that only leaves Kunming, Dali and Lijiang. Dali and Lijiang don't appeal to me as they are tourist towns rather than real cities.

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bloody Chinese medicine. It should be illegal to prescribe any substance taken from a wild animal, with long jail sentences for those who persist in doing so. For endangered animals the sentences should be even longer.

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If they think that a bit of chlorine is going to prevent bird flu, they are very naive. People are also very naive to deliberately come into contact with these birds through feeding them etc, though I have to say their naivety is quite endearing.

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It's good that they are aware of the issue and trying to give help to women and children in need.

Seems from this article that China is basically a set of united states, each with their own laws and differing interpretations of national laws.

BTW Alien, Sweden very much sees prostitution as a form of violence against women. Only the customers are treated as perpetrators. Not sure how far I agree with this perspective, but I definitely see where they are coming from.

In China I frequently see women hitting or kicking men in public, perhaps there should be a a service for abused men too!

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So they are going to try to give them back to their parents who didn't want them or felt they were too poor to give them a good life? Everybody suffers in this scenario - the kids grow up either with parents who don't want them or as orphans, the parents get shamed by their community, and the traffickers do long prison sentences, when actually they were just profiting from providing a service that there is clearly a big demand for. Clearly legal adoption needs to be made quicker and easier for parents who can't have their own children but who really want them so that desperate wannabe parents don't resort to buying kids on the black market.

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a very pleasant park with a tall pagoda you can climb and take photos of the city if you wish. Roses in summer, blossom in spring, nice lawn to sit on, bbq areas.

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Recently the food seems to be better. Decent steak at a decent price, decent pizza, some decent wine, and the music is more suitable these days (Rammenstein wasn't the right mood music for Cantina)!

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Had lunch - grilled chicken on top of mashed cuttlefish and a salad. The chicken was tasty and well cooked, and there was plenty of meat/fish to fill up even a hungry person. The salad was overdressed and nothing special - I won't order one next time. The service is a decent imitation of what you might find in the west. A large menu of food and drink. A nice civilised place to go for food or drink, but some of the dishes (i.e. the steaks) are very pricey. You could easily spend 300rmb+ per person here. Equally, it is possible to have lunch for under 60rmb per person (as we did). Warning - the bottle of water on each table costs an eye watering 48rmb! Don't be a sucker by opening it!

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Went for a spot of lunch. Best pizza I've had in Kunming by some distance. In fact, one of the best pizzas I've ever had - quality ingredients, thin base, cooked to perfection. Sashimi salmon tasted very fresh and was well presented. The drinks are expensive, and one of the waiters was letting the side down by being a bit scruffy and impolite (hence not 5 stars), but definitely go and try the pizza.

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Not bad. Pizza base was a little thick for my taste. Great selection of craft beers in the fridge, a few beers on tap, and well priced mixed drinks and cocktails. Staff were pleasant. A 14" pizza is the perfect size for two people, and very reasonably priced at 45-70RMB. Beware that the English menu, whilst written in perfect English, is not necessarily accurate. I ordered the 'local one' pizza expecting pepperoni and mango but got neither. The waitress explained that was a mistake on the menu. Would be nice if the menu corresponded with what you get on the plate! Hopefully this will get sorted.