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@vicar.

Still think you should see Geezer to brush up on your maths.

In your line of reasoning people are never drunk because the percentage of alcohol looks like nothing in the whole scale of things. Taking medicines does not work because those few milligrams looks like nothing in the whole scale of things.

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@Geezer

This discussion is getting way out of proportion. Am here painted as an alarmist who thinks we will all drown etc. Well don't think so. What think is that climate change is real and will have, and already has, serious implications.

Those who believe that climate change is happening are depicted here as naive and unscientific.
Well at least we are in "good" company:

EPA = United States Environmental Protection Agency
www3.epa.gov/climatechange/basics/

The Pentagon
www.climate.gov/[...]

UN-IPCC
ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/syr/AR5_SYR_FINAL_SPM.pdf

EU
ec.europa.eu/clima/change/causes/index_en.htm
www.eea.europa.eu/themes/climate

I am depicted here as injecting ideology into the discussion.
You, Vicar and Napoleon probably will argue that the above are "Big Government" and therefore evil or even worse EU and UN even bigger government even more evil.

No you rather believe in an Australian mining specialist called Plimer who is a corporate director at several mining companies.
Or ClimateCooling.org a conspiracy website with terms like "Climate Gate" and "Just found: CIA cooling Report" of 1974. A website on which the owner himself however claims:
"The probability of warming may be greater, but cooling's mass starvation begs us to plan for both - J. Everett"
(And indeed climate change might be as well lead to a cooler planet)
Or conservative websites (One of which claims that Gorge Bush was not conservative enough and has links with Dick Cheney) like National Review and Daily Caller.

Your statement that "blind adherence to any ideology is quite anti-science" I fully agree with. But is your obsession with 97%, which by the way was introduced into this discussion by yourself, is to say the least quite obsessive.

It would be better to use your mathematical skills to explain the Vicar that what he calls a trace element in the atmosphere is seriously changed with only a little addition.

Frankly I don't give much for Polar Heating and the ice bear having to swim a bit further between ice shelves. What I do care about is the direct impact it has on humanity. In conflicts like the one in Syria climate has an influence. The further disturbance of weather patterns will have even greater impact in places like India, Bangladesh and Pakistan.

But apart from global warming our overconsumption of fossil fuel leads to a worse air quality and the sustenance of despicable regimes like that of Saudi Arabia and Putin's. Our hunger for oil ads as well to rather questionable extraction methods like fracking and the use of tar-sand. That is for me enough to use it as little as possible.

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@Janjal
The separated waste collection bins in the street indeed get collected in one single bin on a collection vehicle.

The old one even had one entry for batteries; since there was nothing behind it to collect things thrown through there they just fell on the ground.
Clear example of the conflict between idea and practice.

@Andrew.
No idea what type of technology they use but you can recognise them on the chimney and cooling towers (Painted in happy floral designs).
The Wuhua one is in the far northwest of the city near the motorway junction of the third ring road and the motorway to Fuming.
The Xishan one is behind Xishan Mountain and nearer to Haikou then Kunming.
Wuhua N25-06-59 E102-39-31
Xishan N24-50-56 E102-32-25

Note you are using the word "approach" here wrongly. The approach is when the plane is about to land, this involves flying at lower altitutes which are more prone to turbulence. At approach one always has to wear seatbelds (Tables volded up and seats in upright position and window shutter open).
The right word is "an route" to Kunming.

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