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Forums > Living in Kunming > Covid vaccine mandatory for all adults?

@Tom69
Heaving worked in several vaccination campaigns all over the world you indeed might call me a believer. I have seen the results of non-believers; children dying of mumps, children born severely deformed by polio and then dumped at the side of the road. Preventable diseases. This all the result of the weird ideas of the Tabiban, Boko Haram, bush-doctors and all the various western anti-vaxxers.

If you like to belong to this groups, fine, but indeed fuck off to your own country. You might call that “rudeness and hostility and the resort of miserable people”. Well I don’t. Might be rudeness but that seems to be the only way to get through to the like of you, you responded.

You are hostile by spreading false information and doubt that can lead to people’s dead, severe illness and economic hardship. And I am not miserable at all, I have a clear conscience while you have (potentially) blood on your hands.

You are probably too young to remember the times that you had to travel the world with not only a passport but as well a vaccination booklet. When you were refused entry when you didn’t have a Yellow Fever shot. When you had to bare your arm to show your pockmark before you were allowed in the country.

Not surprising these requirements have disappeared because the restrictions in place diminished or even wiped out these diseases. And so indeed hopefully in a couple of years the Covid checks will disappear as well.

Anyway somebody talking about the Nuremburg Code (Spelled Nuremberg Code by the way) as a reason not to get vaccinated is a complete idiot. We all know that the Nuremberg Code had a completely different objective then crossing borders whiteout vaccination. The code talks indeed about human rights but we all know that rights come with obligations. The later part is usually forgotten by these anti-vaxxers.

To spell it out for you: Any form of personal freedom carries in it the obligation that when exercised they don’t inflict the opposite on others.

You state: There was never anything remotely on this scale imposed on the world during SARS, Swine Flu or even Ebola. Well you seem to have lost any sense of proportion. Eight people died of Ebola in the USA compared 617,166 of Covid (To date). Come on get serious! (Ebola killed 11,310 people worldwide).

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Covid vaccine mandatory for all adults?

I was not talking about governments managing “my well being” or “your wellbeing” but about the government’s task to protect its citizens.
But if you want to be free to inflict human suffering and economic hardship on your fellow citizens fine but then fuck off to your own country.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Covid vaccine mandatory for all adults?

And I hope they do.

Probably the most principal task of any government is to protect its citizens. Therefor making sure that no diseases are coming into the country, or are able to spread in their country, is a proper way to do things. By doing so they protect their citizens from diseases and the cost of deceases in human suffering and economically.
I therefor fully support any government that protects its citizens in this way.

If you don’t agree with this fine, but then fuck off to your own country where you are free to inflict human suffering and economic hardship on your fellow citizens.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > COVID 19 vaccine for foreigners

Apparently there was a change in the vaccination policy. The interval between the shots was reduced to 3 weeks. In order to have enough supply they apparently stopped enrolling people for their first shot.
So it might be some time before newbies will be vaccinated.

Anyway progress is made and eventually everybody will get their shots.

See as well the CNN article here:
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Forums > Living in Kunming > COVID 19 vaccine for foreigners

"permanent residence permit" is revered to by some as the Green Card.
I am under 70.
Last shot at BOYA (Yunnan Boya Hospital). That is the same place where the international clinic is located on Guangfu Lu near the International School and the Aegean Shopping Centre. But any vaccination station should do.
Permanent residence permit ID card is the only thing needed.

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Indeed in the dinosaur valley the guys operating the petrol station and shops around it build their own exhibition hall. The Dinosaur Valley Service station is just before the motorway exit to the real site.
The problem with dinosaur remains is that they are frankly quite boring and therefore a lot of exhibitions like to spice things up a bit so their exhibits look a bit more like Jurassic Park.
A good example is both museums here in town. The Yunnan Provincial Museum tries to stick to a more scientific approach and here you see the naked skeletons while the Kunming Museum has plastic Jurassic Park style replicas.
The official Dinosaur Valley exhibition tried to give a good insight into what was found in that valley but found out as well that people where not interested into a heap of dusty bones so they made an amusement park out of it but even that failed.
Dolphins idea that dinosaurs never existed is of course nonsense. The argument, that if they did exist, then one would stumble all the time over them in your vegetable patch is nonsense as well; remains like this can only survive in special conditions and vegetable patches are not one of them (If so then all vegetable patches in China would be knee deep with pig and chicken bones). Dinosaur remains have been found in large quantities in China but they were called dragon bones. The Chinese word for dinosaur is 恐龙 (Kǒnglóng) meaning fearful dragon.

In the west the existence of dinosaurs is far exceeding 1840. Things heated up later with the competition between Sternberg and Brown and indeed large sums of money got involved. In the last 30 years or so dinosaurs got very popular due to movies like Jurassic Park and most museums could only afford a replica. Since hardly any dinosaur is found complete replica bones are used as well for the missing parts.
To give an idea how much money is involved: Trix the tyrannosaurus rex in the Naturalis Biodiversity Centre in Leiden the Netherlands cost 4.3 million euro in 2014. This for a 75 to 80% complete set of bones. It is now on display with 20 to 25% replica bones.
To think that a museum would pay this amount of money plus the cost of displaying it which included building a new wing to the museum for a fake is preposterous and can only happen in the world of conspiracy theorist.

David Wozney falls in the same category as Gavin Menzies; might be a nice book but total fiction and not based on facts. The.kebler.elf theory is as well based on a book (A book of none scientific value) and not on facts.

Also I am not of Siberian descent (But Caucasian) I have far more body hear then the average Chinese. Did you ever wonder why there is hair on your arms on those places which are exposed with short sleeves but there is a clear reduction in hair intensity on the arm parts that are covered by the short sleeve? An explanation might be that the wearing of clothing stops the hair from growing.

Lugu Lake, known to the local people as Motherlake holds special religious significance for the local community. Any form of littering therefore is not acceptable however biodegradable that litter is.

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