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Forums > Living in Kunming > Full Lunar Eclipse this Saturday, Dec. 10

Hi all, thought you might be interested in this.

The last full lunar eclipse to occur until 2014 is on THIS SATURDAY, the 10th of December.

The eclipse will not be fully visible to much of the world, but lucky Yunnan residents get to see the whole thing! (Check out shadowandsubstance.com/20111210ecl/USA12102011a.png for a world map).

Having seen a similar event earlier this year in India, I can recommend making the effort to get out and see it.

The local timings for viewing the event in Kunming, courtesy of NASA at eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/JLEX/JLEX-AS.html, are as follows.

The initial penumbral (partial / 'shadow cast by the edge of the earth's atmosphere') eclipse begins at 19:34.

The partial umbral (actual hard shadow from the earth) eclipse begins at 20:46.

The total eclipse begins at 22:06. As this begins, be on the look out for special colours on the moon. Once it sets in, the moon will apparently be coloured with a reddish or orange hue of unknown nature, due to unpredictable atmospheric conditions at the time. Mid-eclipse will occur almost half an hour later at 22:32. The total eclipse will end at 22:57. The partial eclipse will end at 00:18 and the penumbral eclipse will end at 01:30AM on Sunday, December 11.

It might be worth getting a little out of town to see this. I'm thinking of going to see from the cemetery parking lot on Yu'an Shan, accessible by a small road leading off the main one up to Bamboo Temple. To get there, head directly west from Xuefu Lu / Huangtupo.

If someone has a car I'd appreciate a lift!

Enjoy,
Walter

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Forums > Food & Drink > Healthy options - identity crisis.

Hi Tigertiger.

I run www.vegetarian-china.info/ ... there's some dishes there you might like to take a look at. Going vegan or at least vegetarian would definitely help you.

In terms of eating decent low-fat western food outside, I would recommend:

- Small veggie pesto salad at Salvadors (very filling)

- Salads at Prague Cafe (though a little pricey)

Unfortunately much western food is simply bad for you in terms of cholesterol. Quiche, pizzas, hamburgers, heavy chunks of meat, etc. Lots of Chinese food you buy outside is also very oily, though. You can reduce the amount of oil you are eating by choosing good restaurants, ordering carefully and eating less.

Try going to a good Chinese restaurant (I recommend Kadilan, opposite Mandarin books) and ordering some vegetables you've never eaten before. The white root plant 'zi er gen', cucumber, mushrooms, tofu and tomato, various leafy greens, broccoli, etc. are all tasty and much better for heart conditions than meat dishes.

Also, drinking a glass of red wine every night is supposed to help reduce the incidence of heart problems.

Stay away from any regular consumption of sugary foods. One of the worst is beer, but also fizzy drinks like sodas. Move from beer to wine: feel better, drink less.

If you are smoking, stop. When I've succeeded in stopping for weeks or months in the past a combination of exercise and locking myself at home with DVDs or a computer game or some good books has been a good method. Also, travel in a low-pressure environment (Thailand, etc.) can be a good way to keep the mind off the habit.

Consider getting in to cooking a lot more ... the veggie markets in Yunnan are some of the best in the world and you can really eat well here. Ultimately, eating at home gives you the most control over what you will consume and in what quantity.

Get more fruit around the house, and snack on that and eg: cashew nuts instead of having full meals. Don't overdo the cashews though: in theory they're pretty high fat but in practice you can munch away pretty happily as long as you don't do a bowl a day!

Eat less in the evening, and more in the morning or at lunch time.

Exercise wise, maybe get yourself a bicycle and take a day a week to visit one of Kunming's nearby mountains. Also consider playing some badminton (very full body game: less energetic / high body impact than squash, very approachable for people out of shape).

Good luck and thanks for the shock treatment. I'm overweight too after a too much of the good life and not enough exercise but am working on it with some serious cycling and careful food selection right now. Hoping to avoid a similar situation in 20 years' time!

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Dali-Lincang-Lancang-Jinghong anybody?

I would recommend going south from Dali via Midu, Jingdong and Jinggu, then heading west across to Lincang. This area has far more traditional Dai temples than you can find in Xishuangbanna owing to the Xishuangbanna Dai's propensity to knock the old ones down and build glammed-out concrete replacements the second some rubber-plantation money drips in. That said, there are still plenty of interesting places in Xishuangbanna, just most of them are nothing to do with the Dai but instead other 'minority' groups.

Three of us (Taiwanese 18, Australian 27, Australian 29) are planning to cycle that route at least as far as Jinggu, with an open schedule, at the beginning of October. The pace will be pretty slow, I'd say. If you're interested in coming then feel free to get in touch: 18669080480

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Amusing T-Shirt phrases

Man made <something or other I later determined to be an English radio station>, God made Grass, who do you trust? [With a huge marijuana leaf] - about 2005, eastern Shandong.

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Hang on. Wasn't the primary route from Assam to Yunnan? Why are they flying to Kunming then Guilin? Aren't they going to fly the most important point, the actual 'hump' across the Himalayas to India? After flying all the way from Australia, not doing the real route would seem a massive cop-out.

I lived in the area for a few years, circa 2004-2007 and have been visiting regularly since early 2002.

One of my friends was a monk whose father was a traditional Dai shaman or expert at medicinal use of forest products. A very positive thing that the national government did was allocate funds to the preservation of ethnic plant knowledge, and to publish this in a trilingual Chinese-Dai-English tome. Anyone who is interested in local forest biology or the traditional Dai medicinal system (which, similar to the Chinese system is based upon elements and a central notion of restoring healthy balance/equilibrium) would do well to track it down. I believe in their system there is one more, or one less element than the Chinese. I bought my copy at the research institution on Minhang Lu, now possibly moved or closed, but the Dai hospital on the same street should be able to offer advice on obtaining a copy.

Now the local government scorecard: destroying the forests, allowing foreign missionary groups to dismember local villages, persistent corruption in the allocation of national resources (final Asian elephant populations, remnant stands of forest, Mekong river navigation rights, mineral veins, etc.) and effective local monopolies (long distance road transportation, local political-religious historical sites) to private groups. Unchecked development on the Mekong riverbanks. Some corrupt mayors have been caught by Beijing, but it hasn't been nearly enough.

Within less than 20 years what was once a beautiful valley of Dai villages, the last gem on the Mekong before it left the country, has become a pathetic icon to utter local government corruption, Han influence and planning failure: a monument to failed policy on one of China's most visible borders. Where less than a generation ago forests stood, out-of-province conglomerates build fake Buddhist features with profit at their heart, and rubber trees have become so dominant that real forest no longer be seen from anywhere in the city, which has become a forest of skyscrapers and neon comparable to Shanghai's Pudong. Where even ten years ago rice fields, tropical plants and nature stood, we find cookie-cutter paved 'parks' in the Han style, extending an dating and ever-ignorant vision of socialist utopia in a voracious zombie-like quest for genericism that is powered by the steady supply of disenfranchised emigres of inner China. I am told that Menghai, once a vast plateau of rice fields and villages, has pretty much developed in the same way, though it was first spared the worst excesses as the Shan State border at Daluo exported most local vice.

Yes, there is still charm left in the area, particularly outside of the cities, and it is certainly worth visiting and seeing for yourself. The smaller villages still offer insight in to traditional language, culture and living practices, there is still great scenery if you are willing to invest the time, and exploring the relationship between the various ethnic groups can be interesting. But for those of us who have watched the changes it is very difficult not to be saddened. On my first trip in 2002, I was amazed to see a musk deer quietly stroll across the forested road. That forest is gone.

Some interesting places still worth visiting are the new prefectural museum in the east of Jinghong, the Jinuoshan Museum on the road to Menghai, Menglun's tropical botanical gardens and - if you have time to head west - the Menglian Tusi Museum showing the life and trappings of a local ruler. Finally, if you head south toward Menglong (through fields of plastic) then you may be able to spot a sneakily established Ashoka pillar harking southwest to India in what I like to interpret as a quiet and peaceful act of cultural defiance. :)

Nice article and good picture thieving Patrick, though I note you didn't repeat the story of Jinma and Biji which might have been enlightening for some.

Dongfeng Square was a retiree park for years before they demolished it to make way for the subway and who knows what else that is still yet to emerge. It used to be quite pleasant to walk through as a refuge from traffic, with dancing, card games, tai qi and captive birds visible all day. Sadly that is gone and the eastern side of the center of the city has become pedestrian-unfriendly. No doubt when it opens we can look forward to inadequate escalators and crowds on stairs in the new subway. I really feel sad for the older residents at the moment, it's becoming very hard to move around and refuges from bustle fewer and fewer.

Mike and I have both lived there for extended periods, so we are very aware of the general situation.

The lady is not the problem, it's the ineffective bureaucracy where nobody is willing to take charge or devote time, effort and resources towards migrating the uneducated local agriculturalists, industrialists, property developers and military toward environmentally sustainable farming, building and navigation.

Beijing needs to get involved.

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@nailer is being unfairly dismissed: they are certainly fallible. At one point they were well managed and the only game in town, and their outdoor bar had an interesting social vibe. Recently, none of these is the case (was given a bad bill to the tune of ~300% - no managers present and a subsequent complaint resulted in a less than ideal outcome, many more places are now open, and the outdoor bar is closed). Unless you are specifically seeking faux-Americana (often far better examples elsewhere) or two degrees removed faux-Mexicana, there's little reason to go there. How come French Cafe can serve a great sandwich for 24 but Sals requires 50 for a pretend-exoticized nibble? Certainly the business will continue, but the hey-dey is clearly gone. Romaniticizing the past aint gonna help. E-waste recycling by shipping (non carbon neutral) junk across the country? Puh-lease. Garbage processing people here recycle anyway! I applaud the ethical stance of one of the managers, but the place has frankly lost its mojo.

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Hands down the best draft craft beer in Kunming. On top of that, very reasonable prices for food and other drinks (especially wine).

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Called the number provided on a Friday at 2:15PM while a 10% discount was advertised "on Friday and Saturday" (listed in GoKunming specials).

A Chinese person answered the 'English' phone number in Mandarin then explained in broken English that you need to order 3 hours in advance. (Subtext: As their business is so slow)

Grumble. False advertising. Waste of time. Seems 100% Chinese run. Probably bad pizza.

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The listing here is wrong! Teresa's are not defunct, they are just back to being one store instead of two stores on Wenlinjie now! They are still in business, still answer on this phone number, and are still delivering! Points for consistency, it's been years! As of right now, it's 68 for the more toppings vegetarian at the largest size. They will do thin or thick crust. Yes, it's not to everyone's taste, but I always used to find adding dried chilli powder and some extra salt brought it up to tasty. Might go for a dash of Sichuan pepper oil to spice it up this time around. (You know you've been in China too long when...)

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I also had a bad experience here recently.

Honestly, I wish them the best of luck, but I do think the staff are poorly managed and the owners have the wrong attitude and a clear lack of experience in service-oriented business. While the pizza is OK, everything else I have tried (including overnight stay) can be had cheaper and better elsewhere, and the pizza at Roccos is better in my opinion. The service has always fluctuated between acceptable to don't care.

Since they don't have their situation resolved yet, and it has been a few years, I have made the decision not to go there anymore or send anyone else. It's just not worth the hassle, given the crappy location (masked as private or lost). Better pizza with more quiet and privacy on Roccos' terraces.