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Forums > Living in Kunming > Sat survey

Not me, I had to settle for Chinese language.

Something to investigate, you can pre-order On-star with some imported GM models in China, but it must be pre-ordered (no retro fit). I am not sure if Onstar has China mapping though. It might be worth investigating.

Forums > Living in Kunming > Digitising books

Re: flipping pages, I think that is why @Geezer recommended having the spines cut off. So that the book can be put in a feed tray.
You can always get them re-bound afterwards.

I would never have thought of cutting the spines off, good tip.

Forums > Living in Kunming > accomodation?

Camelia hotel and hostel, on Dong Feng Dong Lu. This is also on the airport side of town.

Not sure about the hostel, but if you pre-book the hotel and tell them you will be arriving in the middle of the night they usually help.
But you must ask when booking.
Last time I stayed there the basic rooms were about 200rmb including breakfast. You can also ask for a late checkout time.


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A thought on the aging population in China. We should not forget the economic changes that have occurred in the last two generations.
The people of retiring age over the next 10 years (50-65 now) are the generation who made the big money. What will they do with the money when they have time on their hands? One of the things they will likely do is travel.
This generation of middle class retirees is not the poor, financially dependent, aged who rely on their children for support. In fact many of them are supporting their children financially.
These people are mobile and rich enough to travel in a way that their parents could only have dreamed of. There are millions of them.



A reasonable choice of lumber that has improved over time. Fancy hardwoods like walnut, and mahogany are in abundance. There are some plywood and rubber-wood boards available. There are also some kiln dried imported softwoods and merbao available. Some of the lumber is very green, so look for the kiln dried if you need stable timbers.


Echo everything said by others.
Breakfast great and the serve from 8am. Most other places say 9am and they still are not ready.
Sandwiches are cheap 22-32, and really packed full of filling. We got some sandwiches for a day out, the only mistake I made was ordering two, as this was too much. These are seriously good sangars, and they are wrapped in alu foil.


In fairness to Metro, they are a wholesalers, and not really a supermarket. Hence the need for a card, which can be got around.

They have improved in the year I have been away. They now carry a more consistent range of imported foodstuffs and they also seem to have sorted out the mported milk supply.

They have a wider range of electrical appliances now, there is a coice of more than one toast. There is also a better range of seasonal non foods, like clothes, shoes, garden furniture and camping gear.