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Forums > Living in Kunming > Sat survey

Not me, I had to settle for Chinese language.

Something to investigate, you can pre-order On-star with some imported GM models in China, but it must be pre-ordered (no retro fit). I am not sure if Onstar has China mapping though. It might be worth investigating.

Forums > Living in Kunming > Digitising books

Re: flipping pages, I think that is why @Geezer recommended having the spines cut off. So that the book can be put in a feed tray.
You can always get them re-bound afterwards.

I would never have thought of cutting the spines off, good tip.

Forums > Living in Kunming > accomodation?

Camelia hotel and hostel, on Dong Feng Dong Lu. This is also on the airport side of town.

Not sure about the hostel, but if you pre-book the hotel and tell them you will be arriving in the middle of the night they usually help.
But you must ask when booking.
Last time I stayed there the basic rooms were about 200rmb including breakfast. You can also ask for a late checkout time.


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The guys selling pelts usually arrive in late autumn, all over China. The ones I am thinking of look a bit like frontiersmen, with their fur hats and scrawny black beards. These guys sell dog pelts, they are often sprayed to look like leopard, tiger, etc.

There is a need for people to update knowledge bases

Darwin's Law of Evolution by Natural Selection (traditionally referred to as a "theory" to honor Darwin's original treatise, but now confirmed through observation and experiment) consists of five main tenets.

Google of [Darwin's Law] will bring up many scientific websites.

The semantic argument that this is a theory and not a law is out of date.

@85 cents. The article says 'only relevant to new signs'. In other words traders won't have to pay for a new sign. But when a new sign is required it needs to be in Pinyin or English, in addition to Hanzi.

This sounds good to me. It will help me find places and improve my Chinese a lot. Why will it improve my Chinese? because I will recognise more words that I have learned in Pinyin (many more than I could in Hanzi) and recognising words will help my language acquisition.
If the words are in English it may also help local kids with their English, in the same manner as Pinyin would help me.

Making the road signs in Pinyin and Chinese was a good idea. It has helped me a lot in navigating the city. Extending the policy to shop signs can only add benefit. And nobody has to buy a new sign.



A reasonable choice of lumber that has improved over time. Fancy hardwoods like walnut, and mahogany are in abundance. There are some plywood and rubber-wood boards available. There are also some kiln dried imported softwoods and merbao available. Some of the lumber is very green, so look for the kiln dried if you need stable timbers.


Echo everything said by others.
Breakfast great and the serve from 8am. Most other places say 9am and they still are not ready.
Sandwiches are cheap 22-32, and really packed full of filling. We got some sandwiches for a day out, the only mistake I made was ordering two, as this was too much. These are seriously good sangars, and they are wrapped in alu foil.


In fairness to Metro, they are a wholesalers, and not really a supermarket. Hence the need for a card, which can be got around.

They have improved in the year I have been away. They now carry a more consistent range of imported foodstuffs and they also seem to have sorted out the mported milk supply.

They have a wider range of electrical appliances now, there is a coice of more than one toast. There is also a better range of seasonal non foods, like clothes, shoes, garden furniture and camping gear.