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Forums > Living in Kunming > Gang fight at the small community park

Huh? I was just asking if you got confused for a minute, geez.

I don't understand what you are saying now, that crime rates in two completely different countries has something to do with the demographic differences of those countries? I don't think you know what point you are even trying to make anymore and have shifted the goal posts a bit more to make yourself sound less wrong.

You could just say "whoops, I messed up" but TBH it sounds like your ego would never allow such a thing.

Eat some humble pie dude, its fine to be wrong, its even more fine to admit when you are. You have changed my views a few times through presenting solid arguments, but it sounds like you are becoming more rambling and less coherent. Maybe getting a bit old? Also fine.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Gang fight at the small community park

Uhhhh laotou, you refer to "crime rate". Crime is mostly referred to as a RATE. A rate of what? Amount of crime in terms of population.

So saying "the crime rate" doesn't reflect the population is stupid, the crime rate already includes the population. You are saying "yes, but the 1 in 100k people murder rate does not reflect the population". Uhh.... its 1 in 100k people... it is, at its heart, a statistic that is based on population. That does not mean that if one country has 1 in 100k murders per year, another should have 5 in 100k because its population is 5x the size to be "even", it means that they both should have the same crime rate to be "even".

You are a smart guy, did you have a brain fart or are you baiting?

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Forums > Living in Kunming > China's Wealthy fleeing China

Geez Alien, really?

In my country I could have done all these things today (having the environment and services for them). Kayaks in clean seas and rivers, kite surfed, wave surfed, played tennis (for free, if I have the gear), squash, golf (for a reasonable price), rock climbed (indoor or outdoor), mountain biked on properly formed trails, taken a kung fu course, watched 2 types of live international sports, watched a super star sing, hiked/ran/biked in beautiful forest, skydived, taken a pottery/cooking class, gone to a food festival, gone to 2 different fairs, gone to a circus, gone to a zoo (with rare and cared for animals), volunteered on quite a few conservation and lifestyle projects, seen about 3 different live performances from a symphony to local play... So many options it's not funny.

And I am only in a city of less than half a million. There was a video of a wealthy Chinese millionaire who lived in the US who literally stated that most Western countries are like Chinese gardens. I have also heard this from Chinese tourists and my wife.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > China's Wealthy fleeing China

It's no surprise that they want to leave. Think about it. 2 choices:

1. Live in a country where the air is polluted so badly I can't breathe, the water is not advisable to drink, the food is so polluted I have to import good food, the lifestyle options are limited and at any time in the future my government could take my wealth. Where my children will be educated but also indoctrinated. On the plus side, I know/understand/love the culture and language, have friends and high social standing.

2. Live in a country where you can drink the water, eat the food (because of appropriate government controls), where the air is breathable, where the environment is like a park, lifestyle options are virtually unlimited. Here my kids will be freer thinkers, like the laowais I met last year. In the new country property and individual rights underpin the entire legal system, making it highly unlikely the government could ever take my "hard earned" wealth. On the minus side I will be in a new and strange environment, will miss my culture and friends, however there are so many Chinese like me there now, I can make new friends!

And all it takes currently is selling one of my 3 Shanghai apartments that I have, thanks to the ridiculous property bubble.

It's not hard to see why they would leave, I just dislike that they have exported their property bubble to other countries. Other than this I don't consider it a bad thing either, it should be a wake up call to the Chinese government.

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Call me an optimist but I think once the Subway is up and running there is going to be a substantial drop in car usage and ownership. Its fairly obvious that Kunming has had some major developments of new living/working areas on its outskirts over the past 10 years with nothing built to connect them together (except for the overcrowded bus systems). The result is people somewhat needing to own a car to enable the to get around efficiently. The subway (once full implementation happens) should go a long way to solving the problem provided the integrate effectively with the bus system... lets just hope its that simple (I did say I am an optimist!).

Hi Omgiri, I aren't in Kunming at the moment, returning in September. Will be keen for a ride up there with you if you are still around! Just have to figure out how to get my bike there from New Zealand...

I knew I wasn't dreaming! www.gokunming.com/[...]

A half decent mtb park would be a pretty cheap way and a good start to creating a world class training facility for MTB'ers. There are so many bikers around KM as well that I imagine the manpower for maintaining the trails wouldn't be hard to find.

Hey, where is this trail, it looks like fun! How do you get there? I have biked a lot around Changchong Shan and not seen this one...

Just a random idea... I remember reading a while ago the Kunming government talking about investing some ridiculous sum of money into making Kunming a high altitude international sports location. Was I just dreaming that??

If I aren't dreaming, it would seem like a good option for them would be to section off a piece of Changchong shan and earmark it for a MTB park. I am sure local clubs could provide the manpower and experience to develop the trails, it would just need government sponsorship of the land and tools, which could be dual use with forestry (which tends to be the norm where I am from and works pretty well - the trails get ripped up once every 20 years when the forest is harvested, a good opportunity to make improvements, while the trails provide forestry workers with foot access through the forest). As there are no shortage of both foreign and local riders, it would seem a feasible idea. If it was done to a high enough standard, it could also be advertised as a cheap high altitude training location internationally. Who's with me???

Bugger, might have lost that big comment I wrote as I think I got logged out.

I tried the route but was turned around by fake policemen who stopped me from attempting the road I wanted I think due to a quarry doing some explosives work (I heard the booming!).

This map shows the route I took kind of (the blue markers) to the road, then a new route I just mapped out as well. Will be trying this one tomorrow probably... maps.google.com/[...]

Will let you know how it goes. My route from the other day somehow became corrupted on my phone so I can't upload it. I ended up cycling out to a town called Daoshao Cun and then cycled back.

Might head out there tomorrow if anyone else is keen? 8am start, will bike up past the new visitor centre then keep heading north along the tracks. Have checked it out on google earth and it looks quite rideable. Have mapped it out (not in detail!) here: maps.google.com/[...]

Anyone see anything wrong with my route (other than a couple of times not actually being on a road... will have to find my way I think!)?

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Wow, just wow. Possibly the best Chinese food I have had in Kunming. And in one of the nicest, traditional courtyard style restaurant I have been in. A woman dressed in traditional qi pao playing a gu zheng just adds to it.

We had okra, mushroom soup, dried beef and chou dofu. All top notch with the bill coming in at just over 250 kuai. But we could have fed 3 people for that so not too bad at about 80-90 kuai each. Not the cheapest but for the quality, it's damn good.

If you have people visiting and want to take them to a traditional Chinese style restaurant with Yunnan style food, or want a romantic night out with a gal, you can't go wrong here. Close to Green Lake (down a little alley) for a romantic walk... Just perfect.

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Pretty good place for getting all your documents translated and/or notarised. Note that there are a number of notaries in the building which you can find by going up the stairs (the elevators are impossible). But you have to find the stairs to do so... go in the door, head over to the right, go up the big wide stairs which head up a floor, turn right then right again into the elevator area and right again into the stairwells. Whew!

One point off for the elevators never being available and having to hike 7-9 flights of stairs (not good if you have to go 3-4 times a day like I often did!)

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This does not stop at the Jinanya hotel at Da Shang Hui as the flyers state (and is on the images tab here). They need to have another stop in the same area or else they are missing out on covering a big chunk of the city.

You can take another bus, the 919C, I believe, if you are nearby Da Shang Hui, which leaves from the bus station on HeHong Lu, nearby the Qianxing road intersection. This bus goes every hour and is white, found at the western end of the station. It is operated by a different company and takes about 1 hour 10 minutes to get to the airport due to a large number of stops especially near the airport.

Great bus though if you can catch it!

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Friendly people, even got to the talk to the vice consulate, who told me she had done a stint in Malaysia's Siberian Consulate!

English is spoken by some of the Chinese girls working at the desk who are pleasant to deal with. I assume they do Visa's as well but I wasn't here for a visa, this time!