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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Travel Practicalities in Myanmar

The Thai border crossing at Myawaddy/Mae Sot will open officially for overland crossings this month (probably next week or around mid-April after the Water Festival at the latest). This is the only overland crossing where travel to/from the rest of Myanmar will be permitted without permission. The Mae Sai/Tachileik crossing should allow overland crossings too BUT you have to fly to Tachileik or Kengtung from Taunggyi first as the road between Taunggyi and Kengtung has not yet opened (only the first couple of dozen of km from either side are OK to travel but not anywhere between the checkpoints, which leaves most of the road off-limits).

From China, the permit requirement for travelling between Mu-se (opposite Ruili) and Lashio has been removed since last month, however I'm not sure whether a permit is still required to cross the Chinese border overland in either direction via Ruili though. Please check with a Kunming or Ruili based travel agency and keep us updated. Forget about the Bangladesh border, it is definately closed and not safe on either side.

Just showing up to find a room should be possible, particularly in smaller towns where online booking is not an option. When it comes to Yangon, it's best to book ahead a couple of days as most accommodation is full most of the time there BUT if you happen to stumble upon a place, particularly on the outskirts of the city it's unlikely such a place would be full since most foreigners choose to stay in the city center.

ATMs are available in most larger towns and they definately work (VISA and Mastercard credit and debit cards accepted as well as Maestro etc.) the most reliable bank seems to be CB Bank but Kandawza is OK as well from what I've heard. The maximum withdrawal amount is 300,000 Kyat per transaction and there is a 5,000 Kyat user fee added onto that for each transaction you make.

Since Mar 31st, Yuan and Thai Baht can be exchanged at banks and money changers in addition to Euros, Singapore Dollars and of course US dollars. It is therefore no longer necessary to bring in only crisp US dollars. In February, I brought in some Euros and US Dollars, however, I exchanged everything for Kyat - I didn't spend a single US dollar anywhere.

I would therefore bring in any quantity of these 5 currencies that you may need and fund the rest of your stay using ATM withdrawals - and perhaps bring a small amount of US dollars just in case, but increasingly it is possible to avoid using US dollars whereas just a year ago this was not the case.

300 Yuan or $50 a day is a reasonable budget - in Yangon you might be pushing it a bit but hostels for $15-20 a day can still be found, otherwise most places go for at least $30-40+ and often much higher. In other towns, $30-40 gets you a good room, but $20 is the average for a cheap room.

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > travelling form Yunnan to Myanmar

Check Lonelyplanet's Thorntree forum (www.thorntree.lonelyplanet.com) for more details. It appears to be possible to cross this border in either direction, but a guide and permit are required. As mentioned, soon this required will be abolished but for now this seems to be the way to go. I also heard it was easier to travel from Yunnan into Myanmar than the other way round so go figure.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Sick of Kunming?

@cuihulongjing, I agree that Santa Fe is an awesome place. The elevation is about the same as Kunming, so no adjustment will be needed for you once you move there, it's a smaller place so easier to get around...the people are really friendly and are easy to strike up a conversation with and the surrounding landscapes are breathtaking. Despite being a high-altitude desert, I even think there is something really nice about the drive down to Albuquerque - the colors and variety of landscapes are really beautiful.

Having said that, I don't feel that Kunming is particularly anti-foreign or anything like that. If anything, it's probably more welcoming than many other cities. The only anti-foreigner vibe you describe probably stems from last year's incidents that occurred mainly in northern China and re-verberated around the country - though I don't think the average local even remembers these incidents nor associates every foreigner they see with these incidents, especially when they're in Kunming, not Beijing.

But of course if we're talking air quality, quality of life, the friendliness of people in general (including local-to-local interactions), even the climate and weather then clearly a place like Santa Fe is way ahead of Kunming. Not only that, but I'm guessing you're an American and thus perhaps longing to go back home? If you're like me, then at some point living in many not-so-multicultural countries like China, it's kinda refreshing to go back home and experience the multicultural diversity that many of our western societies are becoming known for. This means people will be used to seeing different ethnic groups and races, better food from all over the world, and many other things.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Getting Chinese Driving License from Hong Kong Driving License

I was able to get my Chinese driver's license in late 2011 after having first applied on a tourist visa at the end of 2010. The reason why it took me so long to get it after I submitted the paperwork was that after the first time I failed, I was quite busy then out of the country quite often but finally when I passed almost a year had passed since I first submitted my documents. Since that time, I have always been on a resident's permit but my tourist visa was indeed accepted as the basis for my original application.

Glad to hear that foreigners can now take the test every morning. The previous rule of every Thursday didn't make much sense to me but importantly, was one of the reasons it took me so long to attempt the test again: Thursday was my busiest day teaching at the time and at other times I was studying.

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The article mentions the planned "Kunming-Laos-Thailand" railway. My understanding is that line has been delayed numerous times and it is currently unclear if construction has already begun or when it will begin. Even if it has, as the author of this article eludes to, it does not necessarily mean that once it reaches the Lao border that it will be able to continue inside the country. I suspect that if things don't go according to plan, then at least there will be a line down to Jinghong as that won't be affected by any change of plans.

And as for an extension into Thailand, this would be even further off. The current government there has not made a commitment to using Chinese technology to build the Thai line - in fact, recent announcements suggest that initially, there won't even be a link to Nong Khai on the Thai-Lao border, connecting to the Kunming-Vientiane line, but rather, only a Bangkok-Phitsanulok line (which is part of the Bangkok-Chiang Mai line) and Bangkok-Nakorn Ratchaseema (less than half way to Nong Khai) and also a Bangkok-Pattaya-Rayong line. Only the second line would connect to the Kunming-Laos line, but according to the Thai government's plans, this would be many years off as the Bangkok-Pattaya line is the first one likely to be constructed.

Of course this article is about the newly opened Yuxi-Mengzi line, but I just wanted to point out that in the absence of any definitive news on the Kunming-Laos line, I wouldn't jump to conclusions about anything happening on that line so far. Even the Vientiane Times, which has talked about progress on this project in the past has had very little to say since last October, when it claimed a new agreement on this line was reached with China.

@bluppfisk, as clearly indicated in the article and the replies, you must be in transit to a third country not on a simple return ticket. For example, Hong Kong via Kunming to Kathmandu, Seoul via Kunming to Kolkata or Bangkok via Kunming to Mandalay. In the latter case, a stopover in Kunming would only make sense if you really had business to do in Kunming, but this new visa-free transit stay will allow you to enter China via Kunming for a short period without needing to apply for a visa. As more destinations are added to Kunming's airport, it will become more attractive as a stopover destination. Rumours suggest that next year, Sydney will be served by a direct flight from Kunming, which would mark the first non-stop, direct flight from Kunming to an intercontinental destination. If this happens, then flying via Kunming to say, Kolkata, Mandalay, Yangon or Kathmandu, all destinations not served from Australia and generally few other non-regional cities will open up another option to stopover in Kunming for some travellers.

The problem with this policy is it is too limited. China is trying to woo international travelers to it's shores this way by promoting a 3-day stopover, but the problem is that compared to Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore and even Hong Kong SAR, all of which offer lengthy visa-free stays of at least 30 days and up to 90 days for some nationalities, China's policy is so limited in scope and the requirements are so specific that many would be travelers under this policy are likely to give China a miss. Indeed for any trip from Australia to Europe for example, I would always fly either via Thailand or Singapore and would never consider China as a stopover, even with attractive airfares.

While Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou can get some traffic under these rules since they are hubs for airlines such as Air China, China Eastern and China Southern, respectively, with the exception of Hainan Airlines which also has a second hub in Beijing, very few other airlines and no foreign airlines use any mainland Chinese cities as transit hubs for their flights from say, Australia or SE Asia to Europe - indeed, there is no need and previous stringent visa requirements made such plans unlikely to ever be implemented. Even under the current terms, Virgin Atlantic is much better off using Hong Kong as a transit stop on it's Sydney to London flight, for example. This is in addition to Cathay Pacific and previously Qantas, which now uses Dubai as it's transit hub.

The policy would be much better implemented if the requirements were: must only be in possession of a round-trip ticket say Kuala Lumpur-Guangzhou-Kuala Lumpur, Sydney-Shanghai-Sydney or Los Angeles-Beijing-Los Angeles or even Sydney-Shanghai-Melbourne, rather than an onward ticket to another destination and a 1 or 2 week visa free period were implemented instead, even if it only allows limited travel in the same province or 1-2 adjacent provinces.

In the case of Kunming, it is highly unlikely that there would be a reasonable number of travelers using the policy for onward travel, since few airlines use Kunming as a hub - a traveler flying from say Bangkok to Seoul could use Kunming as a transit stop under this policy flying China Eastern but this would be rather inconvenient as direct, non-stop flights would be far cheaper (besides, there are like half a dozen operators flying the route anyway) - I don't think there would be any good deals available for flying via Kunming either, maybe via Shanghai but definitely not Kunming, which would likely require the purchase of 2 separate tickets. For all other possible combinations, separate tickets would need to be purchased thus driving up ticket costs and making Kunming an unattractive hub, unless the government and airlines can work together to implement a more attractive policy.

Still, I think if the implementation of this policy is a step towards some kind of future visa-free travel policy for foreign travelers, then bring it on. However, China would be wise to learn from the examples of the SE Asian countries (including Hong Kong SAR) I have mentioned, as they have earned billions of dollars in valuable foreign exchange from their open visa policies.

Thanks Dazzer, but irrespective of who you are, if you commit a crime you need to be held accountable. This guy could have said he is the most powerful person in China, that doesn't make it so, it's all hearsay. Most people wouldn't recognize him for anything other than his behavior. Of course, in this instance he was arrested, but I think it was disturbing that it took longer than the length of this video for that to happen - bystanders just watched him destroy thousands of dollars worth of property. Half the damage could have been avoided if he was pinned down more quickly. The thing is, people like this guy represent security threats. Of course, it's better this happened on the ground than in the air, because I can assure you that nobody would have let this guy have a tantrum up in the air - he would have been pinned down quite quickly.

What I don't understand is why this guy wasn't immediately pinned down by officers at the first moment he smashed a computer. Instead, everyone including the police just watched, behind the safety of a line. I can guarantee you in virtually every other country on Earth, the second someone destroys even the smallest airport property, half a dozen police or security officers will come and make an arrest. I didn't see any evidence of an arrest even at the end of the video, more than 2 minutes after Yan smashed the first computer.

I used to be told that if you do even the smallest bad thing in China such as stealing a loaf of bread, you'll be immediately arrested and locked up almost indefinitely. It seems that those people who told me those things were quite wrong - it seems like you can do almost anything before you actually get arrested.

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