Does anyone think China will eventually mandate Covid-19 shots for foreigners renewing their work visas inside the country, or potentially, across the board for all visa extensions?
I sure hope not, but I see it as being possible.
@Zoologist, since when is there any logic in such rules? I do admit China is just a little bit more logical than some surrounding nations are.
The Buri Ram, Thailand governor has threatened residents of his province with fines and or jail time, for refusing to sign up for vaccination by the end of last month. This despite a vaccine shortage. Yet the authoritarian governor decided to threaten the people anyway. Nothing has been heard about this since, suggesting it was an empty threat and won't be enforced.
In Phuket, tourism businesses have been threatened with longer closures if their employees don't get vaccinated in time for the July 1 reopening. This despite the goal being 70% inoculation, not 100%.
More recently, there has been more carrot than stick, with reports of prizes being offered, as well as free treats for those choosing to get vaccinated.
@AlPage48, so if someone outside of China does not wish to get vaccinated (or can't), they can't travel back to China even if they live there? That's a bit draconian. I thought that was what quarantine is for?
Even Thailand does not require vaccination. They are merely offering a quarantine waiver for those vaccinated starting next month in Phuket. Unvaccinated individuals will till be allowed to enter the country, just that for the time being, quarantine will remain mandatory for them.
The Bangkok Post reported that the shot is mandatory for Chinese government officials and communist party officials. NOT mandatory for foreigners (yet) though in another thread someone seemed to imply it's mandatory for foreigners seeking new work permits.
My Chinese friend in Shangri-la told me with a high degree of confidence that it's mandatory for everyone, but like I said, this is NOT the case. The Global Times and other media have confirmed that despite some employers and prefectures trying to mandate it, the national government has overruled this. Therefore, the shot is voluntary for the vast majority of the population.
I hope it remains this way...even though technically, China could invoke the Dec 1, 2019 promulgated mandatory vaccination law.
I've since done some research and while some employers and even prefectures have tried to mandate the shot, the central government has told them not to do so at this time. Therefore, the shot remains voluntary. It appears the shot may be mandatory for Communist party officials and government workers, but not the general public.
I'm curious here - is getting a Covid-19 vaccine now mandatory for foreigners to be issued or renew a work permit? I haven't found anything to corroborate this, but a reply on page 7 seems to imply this.
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Chinese student apologizes after Maryland graduation speech sparks firestorm
Posted bySo does "internationalism" or "globalism", Alien. It produces the insanity that we have been seeing in many parts of the west, the USA in particular of screaming leftists who have become so insane as to threaten the life of the US president yet strangely haven't been arrested for attempted murder. Even the media takes part, in fact the media is a huge part of the problem and yes, it's completely biased and much of their reporting is fake, distorted inconsistent with the facts or omits the truth.
The Chinese form of nationalism that you are referring to may however also be somewhat exaggerated for effect and yes, ultra-nationalism, as many Chinese practice when there is a stir-up of nationalist sentiment in response to a "threat", particularly from the arch-nemisis nation of Japan or Vietnam, the Philippines etc. can get out of hand and sometimes results in innocent lives being lost when a riot starts, in addition to massive property destruction. The anti-Japanese riots of a few years ago, when Japanese cars, probably made in China and driven by Chinese citizens were destroyed is one example. Similarly, an anti-China protest last year I think in Vietnam resulted in a couple of lives lost and a large amount of property destruction at a Taiwanese owned factory. No mainland Chinese people owned any of the assets that were targeted nor were they amongst the victims of the rioting.
So perhaps the point I'd like to make is the best response is the middle ground.
Zen and the Chinese art of motorcycle driving
Posted by*Out ON the highways
Zen and the Chinese art of motorcycle driving
Posted byTrue, the Chinese do drive relatively slowly and I find it's only in the cities, mainly bigger cities where drivers can be quite aggressive. Out of the highways it's a doodle though, especially compared to Thailand where you generally have higher traffic volumes and drivers who drive at much higher speeds.
Kunming to Vietnam border by rail soon to be reality
Posted by@bluppfisk, the only way you can reach Hanoi in like 5 hours from Hekou is if the new expressway is currently finished and a bus service that takes this expressway is already in operation. Alternatively, you could take a private car or taxi, but that might be a little expensive unless you share with other travellers.
Currently the train to Hanoi takes around 8 hours and the road journey by car also took 8 hours on the old road, so probably 9-10 by bus.
As I have not heard anything to suggest that the whole expressway has opened to traffic yet (if it has, please provide a source) and only some sections near Hanoi have opened, my best guess is 6-7 hours using a combination of the old and the new road.
Kunming to Vietnam border by rail soon to be reality
Posted by"In the future, the modern railway is expected enhance tourism and commerce in southern Yunnan and one day extend all the way to Hanoi."
umm excuse me there is already a railway from Lao Cai to Hanoi that has been in operation for decades. Please get your facts straight. The only "missing link" per se would be like a 3 km stretch from Hekou to Lao Cai by train, but that's no big deal as you can just walk across the border and then catch a taxi to the Lao Cai train station as is currently the case.