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Forums > Living in Kunming > Covid vaccine mandatory for all adults?

lemon trash, please spare us anymore of your ill-advised "wisdom". We don't want to hear it. You sound like an angry alcoholic who thinks throwing out expletives will get people to agree with you. I will refrain from using foul language like you have, as I'm much too well educated and honorable a person to stoop to your level.

You don't know where I am and I'm certainly not going to tell you. If I were outside of China wanting to return, surely I'd wait at least a year or more, until such time as these stringent measures, including anal swabs, are no longer applied.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Covid vaccine mandatory for all adults?

@livinginchina, at this point, mandatory vaccination across the board for Chinese and foreigners alike is purely speculative. I wanted to confirm the validity of a claim made by my Chinese English teacher friend, who, being a public school teacher and working for the government may in fact have been obligated to receive his shots. However, as I've pointed out already, I decided to do a little bit of research and already found the answer I was looking for:
China does theoretically have a mandatory vaccination law - here is the proof:

www.loc.gov/law/foreign-news/article/china-vaccine-law-passed/

Here is the English version of the Vaccines Administration Law in China: file:///C:/Users/guysr/AppData/Local/Temp/Vaccines%20Administration%20Law%20in%20China.pdf

And here is an article about some parts of China trying to implement compulsory Coronavirus vaccinations on the entire adult population, which was halted by the government:

www.business-standard.com/[...]

Despite all this, I think at this point, it is unlikely we'll be seeing "mandatory" vaccination except for certain types of work perhaps, and possibly for a while, foreigners' work permits.

If you don't want to be vaccinated, I would urge you to find ways of getting out of the obligation rather than blindly complying (again, for the foreseeable future, there is nothing to worry about). You may not even be eligible, depending on your health status. China has been quite reasonable in this regard from the documents I've read.

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So does "internationalism" or "globalism", Alien. It produces the insanity that we have been seeing in many parts of the west, the USA in particular of screaming leftists who have become so insane as to threaten the life of the US president yet strangely haven't been arrested for attempted murder. Even the media takes part, in fact the media is a huge part of the problem and yes, it's completely biased and much of their reporting is fake, distorted inconsistent with the facts or omits the truth.

The Chinese form of nationalism that you are referring to may however also be somewhat exaggerated for effect and yes, ultra-nationalism, as many Chinese practice when there is a stir-up of nationalist sentiment in response to a "threat", particularly from the arch-nemisis nation of Japan or Vietnam, the Philippines etc. can get out of hand and sometimes results in innocent lives being lost when a riot starts, in addition to massive property destruction. The anti-Japanese riots of a few years ago, when Japanese cars, probably made in China and driven by Chinese citizens were destroyed is one example. Similarly, an anti-China protest last year I think in Vietnam resulted in a couple of lives lost and a large amount of property destruction at a Taiwanese owned factory. No mainland Chinese people owned any of the assets that were targeted nor were they amongst the victims of the rioting.

So perhaps the point I'd like to make is the best response is the middle ground.

True, the Chinese do drive relatively slowly and I find it's only in the cities, mainly bigger cities where drivers can be quite aggressive. Out of the highways it's a doodle though, especially compared to Thailand where you generally have higher traffic volumes and drivers who drive at much higher speeds.

@bluppfisk, the only way you can reach Hanoi in like 5 hours from Hekou is if the new expressway is currently finished and a bus service that takes this expressway is already in operation. Alternatively, you could take a private car or taxi, but that might be a little expensive unless you share with other travellers.

Currently the train to Hanoi takes around 8 hours and the road journey by car also took 8 hours on the old road, so probably 9-10 by bus.

As I have not heard anything to suggest that the whole expressway has opened to traffic yet (if it has, please provide a source) and only some sections near Hanoi have opened, my best guess is 6-7 hours using a combination of the old and the new road.

"In the future, the modern railway is expected enhance tourism and commerce in southern Yunnan and one day extend all the way to Hanoi."

umm excuse me there is already a railway from Lao Cai to Hanoi that has been in operation for decades. Please get your facts straight. The only "missing link" per se would be like a 3 km stretch from Hekou to Lao Cai by train, but that's no big deal as you can just walk across the border and then catch a taxi to the Lao Cai train station as is currently the case.

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