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Forums > Food & Drink > Eating vegetarian on Fridays

I think Elise is referring to the restaurant on 圆通街, which serves the fake meat, as well as having one of the largest menus I've seen. That said, although the service is excellent i.e. warm and efficient, the food is quite average in terms of being a little bland, and too oily.

The place that Mayya_happy is referring to is a very small restaurant, in someone's converted home that is opposite the hospital on 华山西路; it's a very small place - holding at most 3 to 4 tables, but is worth going.

I'm a vegetarian, but I don't go to exclusively vegetarian places, but rather places that are vegetarian friendly i.e. understand the concept, and have more dishes rather than just presenting a really limp salad or 青菜。 That said, I've not been impressed with Kunmingese food; finding it quite bland and oily in comparison with other provinces. Decidedly average.

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > September in Kunming (Help?!)

Glad that both of you [emitphotos & Sora24] have found the information useful. In all honesty, it's pretty standard information - all I have done is collate the hard-work of others [article authors].

Green Lake Park - once you make the necessary mental adjustment i.e. "Toto, I Don't Think We're in Kansas Anymore..." - is a lovely park, especially when the light transitions from day to dusk, and all of the lights start appearing and twinkling. Very family friendly, and it's lovely and a refreshing change to walk around at night and see families - young and old - out and about enjoying the evening, without an undertone of menace and belligerence.

Bamboo Temple is very peaceful and interesting; a good diversion for an afternoon.

Some classmates arranged a trip to visit JiuXiang Cave quite some time back. One of them writes a blog which details his experiences in China - so you could possibly find more information there: chinanewbie.posterous.com/

Sorry, I have no information on circuses or other animal acts, because I find those types of performances exploitative.

You and your friend are more than welcome to join me and my friends when you arrive. For any affidavit, I shan't be drinking (soft drinks only) because last night has absolutely ruined me, and re-confirmed my decision to return to my (semi) teetotal ways!

P.s. A couple of important pointers:
1. when out and about - especially when on buses - make sure all of your valuables e.g. purse, mobile, etc are firmly on your person, and that your bag is kept in front of you. Nearly all of my teachers and Chinese female friends have had items stolen from bags (some have had their bags cut).

2. if you wish to use Facebook, Youtube, or any other 'net service restricted by the Great Firewall of China, you will need to use a VPN [virtual private network]. I use a combination of Freegate (FreeU10) and proXPN. Set them up before you arrive in China because the Great Firewall blocks Freegate searches.

Both are for Pc only. Mac users may need to use a paid service like Witopia.

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > September in Kunming (Help?!)

Hi Sora,

The majority of the young women (under 30) wear extremely short shorts / hot pants / skirts. At the moment, it's the rainy season with torrential downpours. That said, I would bring both shorts and long trousers.

Please forgive me, because I can barely type, since I've been out drinking with friends for the last 8 hours, as well as spending time in Top One Club and then Soho club [Kundu] - first time in 4 months!

I really need to go to bed. You'll be fine whether you bring shorts or long trousers.

Cheers!
(he with tinnitus)

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > September in Kunming (Help?!)

Let's get the obvious out of the way first. You'll probably be told to visit Wenlin Jie (文林街), which is also known as 'foreigner street'. Truth be told that although quite a few foreigners congregate here, it's still no more than about 3 dozen or so. KSR it ain't! For that we can be truly thankful.

There are lots of Western style [food] coffee shops, which are good places to sit, talk, study, play cards and surf the 'net [wifi]; lots of restaurants - all types - and a fair few clothes shops, and other shops, as well as bars.

The other reason Wenlinjie is mentioned is because it's next to Yunnan University, and has a large (Chinese) student population, and is also in close vicinity to Green Lake Park (翠湖公园). Green Lake Park has a lot of recommendations because it's fairly central, big (relatively speaking), has lots of fauna but I feel lacking in green, open spaces. The park always has lots of performances from traditional folk songs and instruments to family entertainment; people playing mah jong and cards, and English Corner.

That said, I originally found the park disappointing, because by London standards, it's small and lacks green, open spaces.

The only other parks are all on the outskirts of Kunming. Check out this thread for more info: www.gokunming.com/en/blog/item/382/kunming_park_guide

There are very few cultural activities in terms of museums, galleries, etc. Kunming is quite undeveloped in that regard. But if you're interested in local colour, there are lots of places where you can see people dancing in groups to music each evening - all family friendly and a whole lot of fun, especially Government Square (?) on Dong Feng Dong Lu (东风东路).

There are some art galleries to see around the Loft area (embryonic art scene) on Jindingshan Bei Road (金鼎山北路), which are quite interesting - plus there are a few eateries: www.gokunming.com/en/listings/item/lof_32505/

I'm still not au fait with the all the restaurants, especially as I haven't really spent time in the north parts of Kunming. Perhaps others could provide advice, or read the listings of reviews for restaurants.

As for shopping, you have extremely upscale and stupidly expensive Gingko for Western high-end designer things [clothes]; Qingnian Lu (青年路) has a lot of shops from high-end designer (Gucci) to regular, local clothing ware. Also check out Zheng Yi Lu (正义路), which also has lots of shops including foreign restaurants in the shopping malls - from Brazilian, to Russian, to Japanese.

For nightlife, there are various bars (Hump is the obvious one) and Kundu for clubs. However, the night-life is typical SE Asian fare re: opulent clubs where you stand around tables, with people drinking and smoking, listening to extremely loud and excruciatingly bad music, with a small spot to dance. You may find the experience amusing fun or unsophisticated (delete as appropriate).

If you need to get away due to Kunming sucking the life out of you, there are places on the outskirts to visit such as Xi Shan (西山- Western Mountains), Bamboo Temple (筇竹寺): www.gokunming.com/en/blog/item/1654/getting_away_bamboo_temple and Black Dragon Pool (黑龙潭): www.gokunming.com/[...] not to mention the heavyweight Stone Forest (石林): www.gokunming.com/en/blog/item/1571/getting_away_stone_forest

With all this in mind, please be advised that Kunming ain't London, Tokyo, Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong, et al. There isn't a great deal to do in the conventional sense, and I personally would be stuck if I had a month here with nothing to do i.e. no work / study.

Kunming makes a really good base for exploring Yunnan because there are a wealth of absolutely stunning places to visit and explore if you like to get out and about and do things. I personally think spending a month here in Kunming without exploring what Yunnan has to offer would be a waste e.g. Dali, Lijiang, Tiger Leaping Gorge, Zhongdian (Shangri-la), Deqin (if the road is open - doubtful), Lugu Hu (my personal recommendation - stunningly beautiful); as well as other places like Xishuangbanna in the SW for the whole SE Asian vibe; Puzhehei; and hiking in Nujiang Valley (along the Yunnan - Burmese border).

Hope that helps for starters. Hopefully, others can also post and provide advice.

Cheers!

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > September in Kunming (Help?!)

Hi Sora,

It would probably be helpful to understand your purpose of visiting Kunming for a whole month. Do you intend to study? Or to visit Kunming as part of an overall travel plan?

The reason for asking is that Kunming is a good, if a little slow (pace of life), place for living / studying, but has little to recommend in the way of tourist sites, compared to other places within Yunnan, or the rest of China.

Cheers!

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I like the colour scheme and the initial layout. However, the forum / posting features are basic - especially the layout of posts contained (constrained) in a frame, hard to read and follow, and has a mid-90s feel.

Appreciate if you could look at the possibility - based upon feedback / user-polls - of moving posts to the left-side of the screen, and have threaded posts.

The introduction of a PM [personal message] feature is much welcome, although sadly I expect the necessity of terms and conditions of usage due to "douche-bags" who cannot play nicely and may (ab)use the feature to send a series of abusive messages.

Cheers!

Good review.

I went this weekend with some other students (via cab - approx 40 yuan from 东风东路).

I really enjoyed the setting, as it is extremely peaceful, and the surrounding hills look ideal for exploring - if one has a bike (scooter / mountain bike).

Spent approx 90 mins exploring the temple, looking at the arhats, and talking to a Chinese woman who was learning Japanese, accompanied by her Japanese teacher.

Sadly, we didn't have the opportunity to eat the vegetarian food - although I am a vegetarian - because my class-mates had eaten previously.

I much preferred this temple to Yuantong; and it is nice to be occasionally reminded of Japan (in terms of temples, shrines, etc - and women, let's not forget ;)).

Half a morning / afternoon trip, so would recommend combining with another activity in the vicinity.

Addendum: my 2 female friends just arrived back [home] to complain that they were harassed to buy more alcohol and food.

My female friends wanted Tsingtao beer, to be told that they would not be sold Tsingtao as it's too cheap (12 yuan). They were arm-twisted to buy a more expensive beer. Then after they bought Sol beer, not only was the beer room-temperature, but they constantly badgered to buy food, inquiries asking if they were hungry, etc.

They left to go to Aoma's after that, and had a much better experience in a much more relaxed atmosphere.

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Just came back from Camel Bar after experiencing one of the most bizarre and retarded 'rules' for being 'allowed' to watch a World Cup game.

There is effectively a table fee of 180 yuan (which includes 12 bottles of beer and some popcorn, and a little bit of other food) which you have to pay if you wish to sit and watch a game.

Here's the kicker: I and two others met some (4) friends who already had paid this fee and were happily watching the game. We went to sit with them only to be told that we could sit around the table i.e. in front - thus obscuring the view for them of the game - but not alongside as that would necessitate another 180 yuan table fee!

Admission / seating fees to watch a World Cup game in a bar is retarded at best, as one will buy drinks anyway, but then to be told that effectively a table can only hold 4 people (sitting the other side - and thus in front of the other 4, blocking their view of the game - defeats the purpose of wishing to watch the game ..) when the bar was empty besides one or two others, was the final straw.

I decided to take my custom elsewhere, as there are plenty of other places showing the game - and with projectors.

The other insult was that the projector was slightly fuzzy, distorting the image.

I shan't be going back either during or after the World Cup.

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sean1,

The "two beautiful girls that bake the bread" also happen to be the owners.

Not that I disagree with you, mind you ;)