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Forums > Living in Kunming > Hospital recommendations for giving birth

@misfit Again i've been to other hospitals and did talk a lot of locals before settling on Angel (as someone who owns a toddler care center I've pretty much talked to all the parents that we have at school and compared their experiences). Looking at other hospistals and the standard of care that they provide I'm pretty confident Angel is the best option. It's just that there is still that they need to improve on.

Also Angel isn't really an Expat hospital. It's very much 99% a chinese patients hospital. In fact Angel is very very popular, but expensive. Most people who have some bit of money actually do go to Angel.

Also not sure what you're trying to prove with US and China statistics, this topic isn't about measuring weeners between the US and China.

Forums > Living in Kunming > Hospital recommendations for giving birth

My wife and I ended up choosing Angel for all our pregnancy tests and giving birth. We went to many hospitals all around Kunming and eventually settled on Angel.

I think Angel is probably the best choice in Kunming but it is far from being good when compared to not only international standards but also even Chinese standards from tier 1 and tier 2 cities.

First of all you can forget about being able to book an appointment at Angel. Everything is done in the standard, get a registration number (挂号) and then wait till it's your turn system. Prior to paying for the VIP at Angel the sales service told us you can get an appointment and you wouldn't have to wait but that's a lie. Even if they manage to book an appointment for you all it means is that at that time you come to the hospital, still need to 挂号 and wait. Today we were told to come at 1.30 to see the doctor, it's already 2.45 and were nowhere near to seeing her at all.

My wife is Chinese and my Chinese skills are pretty okay so we don't have a translator. However once the doctors see my wife being Chinese instead of the standard mandarin they start speaking to her in Kunming dialect and for the life of

them even when asked won't go back to mandarin. It's really frustrating as basically I'm sitting there not understanding a word that the doctors are saying and having my wife needing to translate everything. My wife also isn't from Kunming so she's not particularly happy listening to the doctor talking to her about her pregnancy in Kunming dialect.

The man is also not allowed to see the baby's ultrasound. Almost all the private hospitals in Kunming allow for thean to at least see the video of the ultrasound in a separate room. When I asked about it at Angel they said because of COVID the man is not allowed to see the ultrasound. I tried to explain that that doesn't make sense but was simply told it is what it is because of COVID.

The worst thing, however, is the service and way you are treated. My wife received a call last week telling her to go immediately to the hospital and do a blood test. When she explained she was at work and might have to come a bit later the woman on the phone got angry and demanded she'd get to angel within the hour. My wife contacted the sales rep in charge of us who told her the lady on the phone was now having lunch so we'll have to wait till her lunch break is over to see what's going on. In about five minutes my wife received another call from a different women accusing my wife of losing her blood test results (impossible as at Angel you don't take any results yourself, all is kept by the hospital nurses and doctors). She said we need to do this blood test again and that it's really urgent. My wife went to the hospital wanting to figure out what actually happened. The sales rep told her to do the blood tests first and then they'd investigate so she did just that. In the process she was given out to by another doctor for having a high blood pressure and coming to the do test, accusing her of not calming down first and then taking the test. After the tests were done we didn't hear anything back about the situation and what actually happened or even what was the blood test for.

Again I truly believe we'd probably have an even worse experience in other hospitals in Kunming. However it feels really frustrating getting this kind of service for the money paid where it seems that all the doctors want from you is to help them do their work and shut up about everything else.

Forums > Travel Yunnan > Lao Cai/Hekou border crossing

I wonder what are the rules for then traveling from Beijing to say Kunming. Like you do your 10days and then are to go to your home in Kunming to do the additional 7 days or would they make you do 17 days in the hotel quarantine in Beijing?

Forums > Living in Kunming > New MRT Line 4 Opening

Any news as to when line one and two will be finally finished. I saw the sign on the street saying the works will be done by the end of may but seeing the state of them it seems hard to believe.


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