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Forums > Living in Kunming > Carrefour Giving Up On China

Materialism in Ferrari's best selling city along with Suzhou are old news. How the Politburo is cleaning up these infamous cities are not. The current regulatory ins & outs of those cities trickle down to Kunming eventually.

It's not wise to assume buzzwords of 'the big evil corporations' are asinine and irrelevant to us the consumers. The grievances many of us share in this thread and in China generally are due to blatant disregard of those buzzword ordinances you brush off as yada yada.

Yet nor is it wise to blindly subscribe to the altruistic image corporations espouse to customers and shareholders. No secret that Carrefour squeezes the profit margins of local agricultural distributors to the bare minimum. However, due to the competitive challenges of Chinese farming given the limited arable lands and their susceptibility to toxic pollutants..... many cut corners in ways that threaten the health of your loved ones. After all, they have their own to look after. Particularly the "peasant" farmers you try to save.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Carrefour Giving Up On China

Yes, fruit hawkers may be cheap, but may come from illegal and unregulated sources of pesticide. It's the long-term health risk you take when buying massively pristine, seedless grapes for 10 kuai/kg or the vibrantly red strawberries per basket for 10 kuai on the sidewalks.

Same risks may apply for small Taobao fruit wholesalers. Scandals are prevalent in all corners. Though due to verified accountability of Taobao sellers as is the case for Carrefour, sourcing from licensed farmers whose agricultural practices abide by health safety standards may increase their business half-life, despite reducing half-life of their produce.

Whereas street hawkers can appear today and disappear tomorrow. No accountability.

Going back to previous recycling topic. Just announced, Kunming will follow footsteps of major cities like Hanzhou to implement mandatory separation of dry and "wet" garbage waste disposal protocols beginning next year.

The fate of your leftover mixian soup in plastic containers remains to be seen.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Carrefour Giving Up On China

Foresight is 20/20 for vicar. Any predictions for Luckin Coffee Inc.?

Since IPO on Nasdaq, Luckin Coffee is suddenly everywhere within a 1km radius.

However, their onslaught of single-use plastic cups, lids, and straws is a disillusioning sight. I don't see them as "rivals" to Starbucks.

Shanghai and Shenzen Starbucks may have gone experimental in one thousand of their outlets by replacing plastic straws with strawless sipping lids.

I say Kunming could be the first trial city to pioneer the subsidization of biodegradable plastic packaging for all restaurants and delivery services like Meituan and Elema.

Go beyond "civilized." Become a model city in China. Environmentally conscientious Spring City. Kunming goes Green. Phasing out Plastic in South of Cloud Yunnan. Can you see the global headlines vicar?

Municipal and provincial officials sharing congratulatory hand shakes with President Xi & Co. smiling and clapping their hands in the backdrop.

Oh how glorious for the WWF. A win for the city, the nation, and the world. Particularly for marine life ensnared in plastic, much less baby whale calf spared from being washed ashore filled with plastic in tummy.

Patrick Scally & contributors representing GoKunming, in cooperation with Yunnan Foreign Business Club, should touch base with liaisons in pitching this proposal to local government branches (i.e. CFDA, CCA) and local representatives of Meituan, Elema, Alibaba, or JD.

We the members/voice of the foreign community residing in Kunming could fill online petitions vouching for this initiative or conservation campaign.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Carrefour Giving Up On China

Can't argue with tiger there. Plastic containers from take out and food delivery services are out of control.

You've bought fresh poultry and produce on Taobao years ago vicar?

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Patrick wrote: "Although we had no way to verify the veracity of their claims, vendors showed us live lobsters they said came from Australia, Maine and Boston. Maine lobsters were the most expensive and cost 500 yuan per kilogram."

Alibaba's flagship Hema Supermarket just opened in Kunming. Just had a fantastic, imported Boston lobster feast (>400g) for 73 bucks, after various discount deductions. Mind you lobsters that are still kicking were tad pricier.

This price includes on the spot 'jiagong' cooking preparations (~20rmb per 500g) with at least five cooking methods to choose from. Steamed w/ garlic was divine. Chefs were not frugal with the garlic. Dinning area and utensils provided inside and outside Hema.

The ever popular crayfish (aka freshwater lobsters) are also selling like hotcakes. 1.5kg for 95rmb (with Hema app discount). There's a continuous line for these 1.5kg boxes of cooked, ready-to-eat crayfish. No line if ordered online with their Hema app, delivered to you in one hour. Same goes for everything else in the supermarket.

Overall, I was disappointed with the supermarket itself. Live seafood section, particularly their freshly cooked final products such as the Boston lobsters were impressive.

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