User profile: Peter99
- RegisteredJune 10, 2007
- RegionAsia (outside China)
- RegisteredJune 10, 2007
Strato, as a late Labor Day prize, you have been awarded a reply by me, normally you dont get this honor to get my reply.
See, I genuinely respect the Vietnamese - both the vietnamese people and the vietnamese culture. Its a deep well, and particularly when you look behind the war veil. And me think highly of their spirit, culture and patriotism. When you genuinely respect the vietnamese - its interesting - they change like night and day, and their toughness becomes character, like John Wayne, and even their nasal voices become like a Bob Dylan rebel song. On top of that they are sensitive too, with their love songs and poems about Hoan Kiem in winter. Its just an amazing people. Has anyone out there read "Sorrow of War", by Bao Ninh, oh dammit what a book. Says all about them. When you have this attitude you can call them "breed", like Eminem can use the word "nigger", most cant. Go and test yourself with the vietnamese and see if you can make it to that point.
They stopped issuing visas in HK too, about 3-4 months ahead olympics. Later even normal tour groups had to cancel normal China tours, unless they had tickets for the olympic games and all that stuff. You trying to say things would have been totally normal, is just bunch of crap. I dont hang on Wenlin jie community, but rumor said then, many had to leave from their "Sal's" community, or wherever they hanged then.
And anyway, underlying point here not being how 'tense' it was, just some examples, and hypothetical examples, when finding another base would become a reality.
Well, Alien, fortunately you are not in position to decide for others, theyd be having boiled citywater with breakfast otherwise, and chained in a leftist utopia.
How was your visa anyway in 2008? You had that sticker with many months plenty in advance maybe. The Tibet demonstrations started early 2008, the torch was attacked in Paris, things got tense, people got threats, even my friends were occasionally accused as foreign devils, then came the huge sichuan earthquake and cooled it down. But the visa was out of question by then. Many had to leave. Including Peter99, there was no visa extension available. People didnt get work visas either. Yea, somewhat tense, but tense is a relative thing. But relative here, in the sense that its mirrored on Yunnan dialy life, not on some war zone. SARS had its own tensions too. Had to go to hospital and bring x-ray of lungs just to get into a hotel for a night. Just imagine hospital. The chaos. Will they get it in control? People started leaving. But they got it under control, but it was, yea, pretty tense.
Anyone who knows vietnam know very well the stubborn mentality there. You will not be able to handle Vietnam unless you learn to respect Vietnam. This is a challenge not all can accomplish. I mean, man, if you are walking there barefoot two weeks, with a joint in you left hand, and Chomsky essay in right, talking about "the peaceful and harmonius buddhist people of Asia" or like that, its your thing dude, the vietnamese are a damn though breed.
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One of The Best bakeries in Asia. (note: ASIA)
Oh,....the ciabatta with cheese. Theres so much cheese on the bread, (and enough butter too), that you almost feel guilty being treated with it for 26 yuan. Its like buying a cheese with some bread.
Excellent place! Looking back at Yunnan, its like a miracle something has succeeded like Bakery 88.