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Forums > Living in Kunming > Average salary for starting native EFL teachers?

I haven't implied that you made any comparison between native speakers.

What I'm pulling you up on is your "Most places want American"

While I realise there are exceptions that ask for American, as I mentioned above, these are a very small minority, not even approaching MOST.

No one is saying Americans are better or worse than other nations when it comes to teaching English. You didn't catch my drift.

This......

Occasionally some places will insist on American citizens applying, others will look for Brits, Aussies etc. Sometimes for specific reasons, sometimes because they don't know what they're doing. However if you are a native English speaker and have the necessary qualifications you should not be put off applying for any job within the ESL industry in China.

..... would have been better.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Average salary for starting native EFL teachers?

What do you mean MOST places want American????

Most places want/need native speaker, and this may come as a shock to you, but there are more English speaking countries out there.

Absolute rubbish to say MOST places. Did you give your little blue passport a quick double tap as you typed that?

Those looking specifically for Americans would be either US foundation courses, ACT courses etc, at the top end of the spectrum because of college affiliation / accent / training / employees being contracted in America or low grade training centres at the opposite end, because, well, they're all about form over substance.

It could also be down to diplomatic affiliation. I know that Hubei MoE actively encourages Australian citizens to be hired in it's schools because of an affiliation with the MoE in Australia, Nanjing warned it's pre-schools off hiring Americans around 2 years ago.

MOST places will be absolutely made up to receive a CV from a native speaker of any nationality who is able to perform the job.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Average salary for starting native EFL teachers?

This is going to depend where you work.

If it's in a training centre then your figure is probably right.

If you're in a government school it will be more providing it's something more than a primary school, preferably in one of the ''international departments'' and if you're in a university it will be less.

Accommodation should come with any worthwhile job. If it isn't provided for then ask them for an amount to cover that on top of the salary and use it to find your own gaff.

What you may find is a lot of the schools, judging by the ads on here, seem to favour signing a contract with you and then paying you by the class, therefore meaning that your salary is only as good as their marketing team/ location/ reputation is. If you're thrown something like this, look elsewhere otherwise your salary could be all over the shop - you should be looking for stability and making some money when there are no classes to teach - summer holidays and Chinese New Year for example. Something by the hour is going to leave you seriously short at those times of year.

All foreign teachers on contracts should be native speaker and have a degree, so wheeling those two assets out isn't going to give you a jump in salary.

Do your research about any school offering you a job, and there's no reason you shouldn't be making a little more than the 8-10,000 you mentioned.

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Here we go. Do you not remember the state of this website last time, every subject no matter how unrelated was hijacked by Americans arguing about who they would vote for.

Didn't see you do the same for the Zimbabwean elections.

Falling down the stairs is less dangerous than falling off a cliff. I would prefer neither fall.

What's dangerous is saying that some drugs are better than others, when no drugs are better than all drugs.

The only people who would push this line of thought would be drug dealers.

""bank operators argue that the face scans will eventually eliminate entirely the need to carry bank cards. "

If carrying a bank card around is too much for you then chances are there's probably not an awful lot to withdraw from your account.

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