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Forums > Living in Kunming > Is the Law is being applied fairly in China now?

I would argue that such "arbitrary judgment by a council of elders" is a predecessor to rule of law, not an alternative.

After such rule of elders has matured long enough, the practices of it will become institutionalized and written (where writing exists) into a formal law, which can be studied, understood, and applied, without needing the council of elders in most cases.

Even in western judicial systems, there is still the council of elders in most countries. In USA it is the supreme court, and other countries have similar.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Is the Law is being applied fairly in China now?

China and Chinese on many levels certainly seem fond of having a chance to implement this western idea.

Notably I would argue that rule of law is about having well established laws and mechanisms to apply them equally.

It takes little position in what the content of law should be. Even if the laws are very bad, even unfair, if those laws are strictly applied, it would still be rule of law.

By arguing that such broad interpretation of rule of law is not the only possible good way of doing things, I don't know what system would be better?

It is about having clear laws, so that people know what is allowed and what is not (both themselves and others), and to what degree.

The opposite would be system where you do not know what is allowed or to what degree. I fail to see how any such system would be better.

China's problem usually has been outside interference (of various interest groups) in judicial system, which is something they are trying address at least in policy speeches.

Even if China has clear laws about something already in the past, courts were not free to implement the law.

Would you argue that in some cases such external interference in strict implementation of laws would be preferred? Of course if the laws are bad, it may be called for, but first solution should be to rewrite the laws.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Is the Law is being applied fairly in China now?

In my opinion, the biggest obstacle to fully implement solid rule of law in China are those vague terms "national security" and "social stability". Those leave much to human interpretation, which keeps rule of law still more or less rule of man, in many areas.

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CoVid experiences possibly affecting this could could of course come from many perspectives.

For example, those who are or have been in urban lock-down, may appreciate the prospect of going out once it is over - opportunities which are perhaps different in Kunming/Yunnan, than somewhere else.

If the survey took place during or after lock-downs in China, people will acknowledge this and it would show in results more strongly than perhaps otherwise. Appreciating what the city or region can offer beside 12h work days and big bucks.

"Survey of Economic Life in China"

If this "economic" is to be taken as in affordability, then at least for me it is a major point.

If I speculate this from local perspective, last I checked the local average salary was below the monthly automatic 5000 RMB tax deduction, so average Kunming resident gets by without paying any income tax - in many other country I would probably feel satisfied if I see the city and society develop even without having to contribute to it myself by other means than my own consumption.

There isn't that much industry here, but the benefits of developing society keep trickling in anyway, and this curve (or imbalance or whatever you'd call it) will ultimately show in this kind of surveys, positively.

It is perhaps same in some more remote places, where some farmers can make a small fortune with modern technology to help them.

Also curious about when this survey was conducted - would CoVid experiences weigh in it, and how?

"Dogs raised outside the key management areas may not be brought in."

Curious how this regulation deals with people (foreigners or Chinese) who may want to move in Kunming and bring their pet dogs with...?

I'm curious whether the separate website for Lijiang means less Lijiang-specific content appearing on GoKunming. For me personally it would be double to effort to navigate two websites, which may be why I will not frequent on the Lijiang site.

So basically will the information on the two sites be mirrored so that those who only read GoKunming, may catch all/most of the content about Lijiang as well?

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