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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Hong Kong visas for Chinese

Well, my wife's initial reaction to this trouble was to wonder why the British had to return HK to PRC at all.

It would have been easier for her to visit there with Chinese passport, which is more readily available to rural residents than the entry/exit permit.

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@tigertiger:

Yes, Entry & Exit Administration of PSB on Tuodong Lu is the place where Chinese apply for their permits to go to Hong Kong.

To do that, they need either Kunming hukou, or the temp Kunming ID that you mentioned.

At the moment, rural residents from everywhere else in Yunnan than Kunming, can only ever get permit for tour groups. Situation is similar in other provinces that are far from HK.

It has been difficult for me to even understand what my wife's real problem in this it, but I'm getting there!

She didn't know that there are different types of Exit & Entry permits for HK visits, so she got the permits for her and our son from her hometown. We were visiting there earlier anyway, and it was certain she could apply there.

But they automatically gave permits of "group tour" type, because individual permits are not granted outside Kunming.

And then she only later found the problem with permit type.

My wife has the temp Kunming ID, and could apply for new permit for herself. So that'd be fine.

But our son, who's Kunming temp ID is being processed (and won't be ready until later in spring), cannot apply in Kunming with the bare paper receipt - which is similar to what foreigners get while waiting for their RPs being processed into their passports.

We went to airport to ask China Eastern service desk whether we could use the "tour group" permits without being in tour group, or whether buying such certificates from Taobao would work, but the person at desk said it will not work - my wife and son would really have to join a real tour group.

Our next step is to visit local PSB and ask if our son's Kunming temp ID processing could be completed faster.

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Hong Kong visas for Chinese

@Debaser: Yeah, my wife mentioned something like this too - buying a document on Taobao.

But then she also found something on internet, saying that in 2017 this changed so that the certificate from travel agent would not be needed.

I'm not sure now what document exactly she was referring to.

Anyway, mainland citizens can use Chinese passport to go to Hong Kong (and stay up to 7 days), IF they have onward travel to a "third" country (or on way home). I assume you refer to that kind of document.

This is somewhat different from going to HK with Exit/Entry permit for tour groups, without actually being in such tour group.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > What is bad about Kunming and Yunnan?

I think that what ever problems there are with China in general, can be expected to be understood and accepted by anyone coming to Kunming or any other city in the country, well in advance.

However, foreigners who have not experienced Kunming or other less than first tier cities, may not be so familier with some issues that are specific to these smaller cities.

At least to me it was somewhat of a surprise, that despite the image of strong central government, reforms decided in Beijing (even if said to be implemented nationwide) may take several years to be implemented here.

Mountains are still high and the emperor is still far away.

Such problems may not present themselves to random English teachers or retirees who just need a place to settle (professionally or otherwise).

But if you want to make business of some kind, or in certain way, then these smaller cities add a layer of complexity that you may not encounter in Shanghai or Beijing - of course the first tiers have their own unique problems too.

And because most foreigners go to the first tier cities, that's also what majority of information available on internet applies to.

Foreigners may read and be well informed about tea house scams and other Shanghai problems, but find completely different problems in (for example) Kunming.

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Hong Kong visas for Chinese

Refreshing old thread for new case.

In short: Chinese citizen with rural hukou flying from Kunming to Hong Kong.

So I booked tickets for the family (me as a foreigner, wife and son as Chinese), planning to fly from Kunming to Hong Kong for a week later in the spring.

No problems for me, and wife and son have already acquired Entry & Exit Permits for Hong Kong.

But now my wife chatted about the coming trip with some friends, and found that the type of permit she got is "L" (for tour groups), as opposed to "G" (for individual visits).

When she asked about this from the office in her hometown in Baoshan, Yunnan (place she got the permits from), they said that outside Kunming, only tour group permits can be issued. And not having Kunming hukou, that's where she must apply.

Since we are not travelling with tour group, she's now all stressed about whether she can go or not. She looked on baidu, and found conflicting information.

To further complicate things, she asked from Ctrip, where they said that she could only fly to Hong Kong from few select major cities (Kunming not included).

We next plan to go to Changshui Airport and ask at the service desk of the airline that we have tickets from. I assume they'd have final answer on whether we wil be able to board the plane.

Does anyone have experience on this matter?

EDIT: Wife corrected that for herself she could get the permit from Kunming (because she has temporary residence permit here), but our son does not have the final Kunming RP yet, so that's the problem - son's final permit will be ready 1 month after our scheduled trip, which is paid and non-refundable.

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CoVid experiences possibly affecting this could could of course come from many perspectives.

For example, those who are or have been in urban lock-down, may appreciate the prospect of going out once it is over - opportunities which are perhaps different in Kunming/Yunnan, than somewhere else.

If the survey took place during or after lock-downs in China, people will acknowledge this and it would show in results more strongly than perhaps otherwise. Appreciating what the city or region can offer beside 12h work days and big bucks.

"Survey of Economic Life in China"

If this "economic" is to be taken as in affordability, then at least for me it is a major point.

If I speculate this from local perspective, last I checked the local average salary was below the monthly automatic 5000 RMB tax deduction, so average Kunming resident gets by without paying any income tax - in many other country I would probably feel satisfied if I see the city and society develop even without having to contribute to it myself by other means than my own consumption.

There isn't that much industry here, but the benefits of developing society keep trickling in anyway, and this curve (or imbalance or whatever you'd call it) will ultimately show in this kind of surveys, positively.

It is perhaps same in some more remote places, where some farmers can make a small fortune with modern technology to help them.

Also curious about when this survey was conducted - would CoVid experiences weigh in it, and how?

"Dogs raised outside the key management areas may not be brought in."

Curious how this regulation deals with people (foreigners or Chinese) who may want to move in Kunming and bring their pet dogs with...?

I'm curious whether the separate website for Lijiang means less Lijiang-specific content appearing on GoKunming. For me personally it would be double to effort to navigate two websites, which may be why I will not frequent on the Lijiang site.

So basically will the information on the two sites be mirrored so that those who only read GoKunming, may catch all/most of the content about Lijiang as well?

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