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Forums > Living in Kunming > Anyone here gotten a Chinese Green Card?

@liuer2

Oh, I didn't mean the Chinese state would be forcing retired people to return to work, but allowing them. As it stands, there are some prohibitions for elder to work even if they want.

I have heard some older foreigners complaining about how they are not allowed to work in China even though both themselves and their prospective employers would want to. Their bottleneck seems to be in work permit, which would not be needed with PRP.

Personally I'm still in working age, and full-time employed both abroad and through partnership in China (also not teaching). For me, PRP could open backup options to easily find temp work "flipping burgers" if nothing else, in case the regular career has challenges.

Another technical question about your PRP - I assume that you didn't need to give up your passport for the whole 2 years while your application was processing? Were there stages at which they held your passport for extended periods?

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Anyone here gotten a Chinese Green Card?

@liuer2

Since you are retired, some of the benefits of the permanent residence status probably escape you.

But did you ever confirm what those wold be?

For example, does it really apply that PRP holders do not need work permit (or change to work visa) to be employed in China? Provided that they meet same employment criteria as local workers.

I faintly recall reading sometime last year, that China wants to pull retired people (teachers for example) back to work, and that could also apply to older (retired) foreigners with PRP who may otherwise be prevented from doing so by work permit age requirements.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Anyone here gotten a Chinese Green Card?

@liuer2

Congratulations both for the residence, and more importantly for being probably the first foreigner here to describe your experience directly to wider public.

I'd like to know if you owned (or were required to own) property in your name in Kunming (or elsewhere in China)?

Or was that 100,000RMB perhaps required in case of not owning property and renting instead?

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Anyone here gotten a Chinese Green Card?

It says "issued by a Chinese embassy or consulate.", so I'd bet it is the same no-criminal certificate as is needed for regular work visa.

Obtained from your home country or a country with your long-time residence, and legalized by the Chinese consulate in that country.

I suspect that if this current long-time residence is in China, you still need to get the certificate from your previous domicile, because Chinese authorities can no doubt find your (no) criminal history in China on their own.

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@alienew: "The workers should hold them liable with brickbats."

Well, that would set a dangerous precedent, which would only result in only tighter enslaving of employees in future operations across the nation. And certainly overriding limited liability of iinvestors only serves to drive investments away from these places.

The second to last picture with all the shop signs actually reminds me of Hong Kong.

Perhaps off topic, but this is strikingly opposite of recent developments in first tier cities and in fact even our own apartment block in northern Kunming, where the authorities are forcing shops to remove excessive signs on the streets and in the walls - basically anywhere outside the immediate space the shops have leased.

Alright, if you go that way then everything is assuming. Assumptions is what made our ancestors come down from trees and cross a river and a mountain range. You assume quite a bit already when you go to sleep at night.

I am not assuming anything that didn't happen already. China already had a peasant revolution that was supposed to bring prosperity to all.

I am not asking for another revolution, but I am asking for that same spark. I do admit assuming that the Chinese state can contain such spark better this time.

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