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Forums > Living in Kunming > International School in Kunming

I wonder if China in any way recognizes such education that does not follow official Chinese curriculum (with all of its characteristics).

For example, the Chinese students who supposedly attend KIA, can they ever take gaokao? Or have they/their parents already chosen future education abroad?

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Forums > Living in Kunming > International School in Kunming

@Ocean: ""I know for a fact that some mainland Chinese (with no foreign passport) attend KIA"

Are you sure about that? I met the headmaster about 3 years ago, and he said KIA is exclusively for foreign passport holders.

He also mentioned that right in the neighbour of KIA is another high end school which caters for Chinese students, and while they share the same sporting grounds and possibly other facilities with KIA, they are not KIA.

Perhaps your friend's son attends to that school?

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Naming a child

For our son (born in April this year), we also chose Chinese nationality to begin with.

To make things smoother for possible future changes in that, we chose a foreign given name that can easily be pronounced and written in (3) Chinese characters, and then used this Chinese transliteration together with my wife's family name for Chinese birth certificate.

My own consulate adviced, that if we later choose to apply for nationality and passport in my own country for him, we must use exact pinyin version of the Chinese given name, while family name we can at that time change (to my own family name).

So if, sometime in future, you want the child to have a foreign looking given name in his/her foreign passport, you may have to consider that already when choosing the Chinese given name.

I don't know if this applies in all countries, but at least in mine.

About dual citizenship, China's nationality law states that as soon as a Chinese national takes foreign citizenship, he/she will lose Chinese citizenship automatically. This is mentioned in article 9 of the law, with following questionmark:

"Any Chinese national who has settled abroad AND who has been naturalized as a foreign national OR has acquired foreign nationality of his own free will shall automatically lose Chinese nationality."

How the precedence of the AND and OR in that article is interpreted, affects whether this automatic loss of Chinese citizenship occurs only if the person has settled aboard (and acquires citizenship there), or always when the person acquires foreign citizenship voluntarily.

Now I understand that many people have both PRC and foreign passport, and nobody cares much.

The issue might be mostly, if that person faces legal issues in China, and the process or outcome may depend on whether the person will be tried as Chinese national or foreign national.

That's when the letter of law and its interpretation would be tested. While he may be holding a Chinese passport, his Chinese citizenship could be considered to have been revoked as soon as he acquired foreign citizenship, and he would be dealt with as foreigner from then on - furthermore he could face problems in face of China's law for having used Chinese passport "illegally".

The nationality law has separate articles to deal with renounciantion of Chinese citizenship by application. Article 9 only deals with automatic loss of Chinese citizenship.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Other cities have sites like "GoKunming"?

@MrPink:

It is all relative.

Kunming has too small expat population, and it is too far from "where things happen" to be in any way significant for majority of foreign expats in China.

Kunming is one of the last places in China where "new" regulations about visas, employment, or making business get implemented - therefore the information on this website will also always lag behind with what most expats in Shanghai, Beijing or Shenzhen expat populations look for. And that's where most of them go.

On the plus side, Kunming is small enough to not atrract too many spammers, and that includes this website.

It does also serve purpose locally.

Yunnan is a good trip destination, whether you are expat living in Shanghai or in some smaller city on the coast, and this website is good source for relevant local information. Though last I checked, the search features are technically not on par with some other expat sites in China.

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The second to last picture with all the shop signs actually reminds me of Hong Kong.

Perhaps off topic, but this is strikingly opposite of recent developments in first tier cities and in fact even our own apartment block in northern Kunming, where the authorities are forcing shops to remove excessive signs on the streets and in the walls - basically anywhere outside the immediate space the shops have leased.

Alright, if you go that way then everything is assuming. Assumptions is what made our ancestors come down from trees and cross a river and a mountain range. You assume quite a bit already when you go to sleep at night.

I am not assuming anything that didn't happen already. China already had a peasant revolution that was supposed to bring prosperity to all.

I am not asking for another revolution, but I am asking for that same spark. I do admit assuming that the Chinese state can contain such spark better this time.

@alienew: "it is precisely money that the poor do not have."

And that is why even 1% taxation of the little they have would have big impact on their awareness of their rights and privileges. In context of OP, it would tell them that they pay for even the limited resources they get, and it would be in their best interest to actually use them.

For example in mountains in Changning, Baoshan, the local government subsidizes roomy tents to families who live in dangerous mudbrick houses or need more space for children but are not financially capable to build bigger and better houses.

But there is psychological barrier to accept such "gifts".

Some go to great lengths to find, borrow and steal the money rather that accept services for free. Some rather leave their children behind and go earn the money themselves from coast. Some rather die quietly in their homes than early enough access even the limited medical services that they are entitled to.

I have personally witnessed all of that within last year.

The state is going to increase financial reach to rural regions in coming years, and as Vicar hinted, trusting the reach-out to public service providers will only go half way. The poor themselves must be activated to ask and accept those services.

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