For those viewing this thread years in the future, please know that cloudtrapezer was responding to a weird now-deleted spam post which began with the words "Electric shavers excite me".

Trumpster wrote "An innocent finger slip during registration ..."

This has the makings of a politically charged rom-com. One day you may find yourself living happily ever after in Nebraska.

Sorry, it's hard to resist having a laugh at the expense of the clumsier ones. But OK, will do.

@jhon miller, are you taking the shopping of Kunming?

I think everyone is in favor of lively debate, and a large majority appear to oppose trolling. There is a gray area in between lively debate and trolling that might be called "disruptive" posting, which is a good part of what seems to be at issue here.

The problem is that disruptive posting is extremely difficult to define, and it's even harder to determine what if anything should be done in any given instance. Therefore, the chances of us settling the matter here are virtually nil. It is the job of the moderator to make judgement calls about how best to address disruptive posts for the general welfare of the forums.

We also now know that Ishmael didn't just summarily get a red card, but rather had first received several yellow cards. So the free speech concerns that some have raised should be at least somewhat reduced.

The upshot of the points above, I would suggest, is that the current conversation has run its useful course.

The forums were carrying on rather well before the present to-do, as several other people had already noted. This gives reason to hope that the new approach to moderation is working. So how about we all take a deep breath, put some trust in the moderators, and let them do their job for a while?