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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Travel around Yunnan by public transport

Your point 1. Above basically sums it up; the whole north is a big tourist trap designed to suck as much money out of you as possible.
Before there was a cobble stone road between Lijiang via Zhongdian (That is Shangri-La now so named for tourist attraction) to Deqin. You just stopped anywhere along the road and enjoyed the view. Now they build high walls at any place with a decent view and charge outrageous amount of money for a viewing platform. Same at Feilai Temple.
Mingyong Glacier is not a tourist attraction but a religious place of the local population. Unless you have good reasons to be there, and tourism and curiosity are not one of them you should stay away from it.
Forget about Deqin. Feilai temple is a dump of overpriced cheap hotels catering mainly to young Chinese who try to cycle to Lhasa (A lot of them strand here because the mountains are too high and the road to bad). But in November even these will not be there.

For your information:
Halfway between town and the Songzanlin lamasery (It is not a monastery) is the huge parking and ticket office. You would probably enjoy the free bus service that is included in the entry ticket but I suggest you to walk the remainder to the lamasery because this gives the best views.

For Qiaotou read Hutiaoxiazhen, the place where the road to and through the TLG leaves the G214 . This is where the ticket office is (And not further on in the bend as some maps make you believe). Anyway this whole area is a big tourist trap for instance they charge me ones 28 kuai for a bowl of noodles in Hutiaoxiazhen. Normally this would cost 7 kuai.

Well indeed I didn’t fully get your question about busses to Jianshui. Anyway it is a full day travel.

Indeed the whole idea about the Hani Terraces is that they are full of water. In November they only start flooding some of them in preparation (They need continuous upkeep and repair).
Normally at the terraces you hire transport for the day. They know as well at which time you have to be where. I usually take a full day from before sunrise till sundown to view the place.

But really you are getting around like a mad hornet. Take your medication and cool down ;-)
Relax and cut out serous parts of your trip. With this schedule you will return home and realise that you have not seen anything but the interiors of busses.
But if you do this only for the bragging rights that you have been there (You can however not claim you have seen it) then this schedule might be the right thing to do.

You seem to be very concerned about spending money. Well cut your itinery in half and you can relax about this point as well. Travelling by bus is bad for your health as well because these places (Bus stations) have the worst food in Yunnan.

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Travel around Yunnan by public transport

Indeed you can get off the bus at Qiaotou and make your way from there with or without the help of Tina's.
But Qiaotou is not TLG also the ticket office is there.
The small busses that go through the TLG to Habacun and the White Water Terraces don't like to take non locals because they don't like to wait at the ticket office and rather have passengers that go all the way than passengers that only go the distance to the TLG. They normally don’t have the space to pick up passengers at the TLG on the way back.
Of course you can walk (And that is a better idea) but that was not the question.

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Travel around Yunnan by public transport

I appreciate it when people try to take local public transport but in 10 days this is not possible.

1.
The viewing platform is behind a wall and you have to buy an expensive ticket to look at a bend in the river. No busses will not wait for you.

2.
Only real option is to hire a taxi for a day for a few hundred kuai.

3.
A twenty kuai taxi will safe you several hours.

4.
There is no public transport to the TLG. Tourist need to buy a entry ticket for the road going there and the little busses that go there simply don’t want to wait for that.
There are hundreds of tour busses but they are organised such that the entry ticket is part of the trip price.

5.
No idea.

6.
There are direct busses from Dali. For one kuai you can take the city bus to Xiaguan and take a much better (Safer) long distance bus to KM.
You can take the train as well.

7 & 8.
No idea.

9.
This takes at least a whole day so leave in the morning. Anyway you have to go to Xinjie because there is nothing in Yuanyang. But safe yourself the trouble because November is the wrong time of year.

10.
Plenty of local transport with driver available. In November it might be cheap because there will be no one. During high season tourist prices are charged.

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