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Forums > Living in Kunming > Non-smoking bar or dance club WANTED

@ Dazzer: Laws are specially significant when they protect others from harm.

That is why non-smoking laws were created and successfully passed approval, despite having being heavily argued against and opposed by strong lobbies.
The post you mentioned was not an "argument", but instead, a reply directed to TCIexpat. I know my way around logic enough to logically infer without the use of leverages or fallacies, thanks.

Forums > Living in Kunming > Non-smoking bar or dance club WANTED

@ Natsymir:

Ripping the guy's cigarette off his hand is "cruel", yet for a non-smoker having to endure an 11 hour bus trip Kunming-Tenchong with smoke circulating is also not cruel ?

Furthermore, is it still "cruel" to take the action I took when it was politely asked for the person to stop smoking a couple of times?

Keep in mind the law was on my side mind when I did that.

Your "VPN Access example" of a common law infraction cannot be compared to breaking a law that directly and negatively affects ANOTHER PERSON, such as the non-smoking law.

Natsymir, your have the morality and values of a 10 year old.

Forums > Living in Kunming > Non-smoking bar or dance club WANTED

People say anything they want when they are safeguarded, but when out in public it's a different situation.

As Wanderlei Silva once said to Chael Sonnen when they had to share a limo ride to UFC:

-You have respect, you no lose your teeth. (sic)

Non-smokers want to have the right to avoid smoke due to their personal or health issues (allergies/rhinitis) and NOT because they think they are superior to non-smokers.

Their concern is also backed up by law, the message is: respect.

Forums > Living in Kunming > Is Kunming Racist?

I agree with the idea that the chinese schools might have had trouble with the issuing of visas to african countries passport holders in the past.

I wouldn't be so concerned about what chinese people think of you, there will always people who will want to be your friends.

Forums > Living in Kunming > Non-smoking bar or dance club WANTED

@ MODERATOR: please check TICexpats for his conduct on the forum.

@TICexpats: I created a thread hear some suggestions on a smoke free establishment. Smoking under closed public spaces is forbidden by law in all chinese territory.

I don't like the sarcastic tone of your post.
As a non-smoker I will continue to make sure the law stands, I will not leave Yunnan, or China. If you cannot respect the laws of this country, you will end up being deported.

@All:Last week, in a bus from Kunming to Tengchong, I had to personally take the cigarette out of the hand of the reserve bus driver (2 of them alternate shifts) and put it out on the floor. This was after I told him two times to put it out and was ignored. It generated a major commotion in the bus.

@TICexpats, again: Why don't you try smoking near me in an elevator or restaurant. I would enjoy teaching you some respect, boy.


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So let me see if I get this right:

1 Turists have to pay for the pollution caused by factories.

2 Factories will not be charged anything.

3 The tax money will not be used to clean the lake.

4 Kuming party members will be able to afford Harvard tuition for their offspring and buy Aston Martins.

This is China...

That's for AlexKMG and blobbes. Sorry I don't say you're smart for pointing out that meat indeed takes a lot of water to produce, I've learned this when I was on 6th grade.

Come on, if water is to be saved, shouldn't we instead stop the wasting in other non-essential activities, like the average chinese joe washing his overpriced car 2 times a week?

Meat is nourishing, loaded with protein, vitamins and minerals, using the drought to promote vegetarianism or reaching the conclusion that the best way to save water is decreasing the consumption of meat in a country that already has a minimal consumption is bullshit.

Are you serious, eat less meat? Where have you been eating, Brazilian barbecue restaurants? Almost all of the population in China already eats the standard big rice bowl with traces of meat. Not a sound advice there buddy. I lift weights and will stick to my 300 g/day of protein. Thanks for going vegan to compensate for my muscles.



Call before you go, I went there on thursday and there was no one in there,

I called one of the owners, and they said that they weren't going to open.

I lost my trip, I love the concept of the restaurant, No MSG and etc, but ended up having to pay for a cab ride and getting a growling stomach.

If the same thing happens to you, just go down the road until the road ends and the last 2 story restaurant across the street is very also decent. Order the sweet and sour fish and it also won't have any MSG.


No Bus to Chenggong from the airport, had to go downtown and get a 150 RMB taxi.

I mean isn't this a district of Kunming? Then why not make transportation available?

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