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Is someone's request about living in Kunming the best place for a pissing contest?

For the actual relevant questions posted:

1) HK vs Kunming Pollution. There is more to pollution than air pollution. Kunming's air pollution rates can be just as high as HKs, even though we get more blue sky (an effect of the altitude, not pollution). However, Kunming has higher levels of pollution in water and animal protein. These may not make someone sick immediately, but they can have health effects in the long-run. Similarly smoking is more prevalent, so if someone or a member of their family is particularly sensitive to it (example, someone having recently undergone cancer treatment or who is prone to recurrence) then Kunming may not be the best place. This is also a general problem in China, as CERTAIN health problems connected to pollution are much higher here than elsewhere, but only manifest in late-life.

2) Medical Care: There is good medical care in Kunming that will cover a majority of problems someone would face. However, if a person has very specific problems, Kunming would be a bad idea. Orthopedic surgery is really lacking here, so people with chronic joint pain/back pain or who has sustained injuries that would require precise surgery would do well to think twice before relocating. Similarly, if someone had a child/spouse/etc who required ongoing mental health care, then probably stay in the larger cities or outside China. The infrastructure is simply not here.

3) Location based problems: Different people have different sensitivities to their environment, so yes where they live can affect their health. For example, actually yes if someone is prone to current headaches or has chemical sensitivities, then SLC, UT may be a better option. Lower altitude, fewer plants, and a long winter that kills everything off in the air would have many benefits for someone like that. My stepmother had severe allergies living in SoCal, to the point that she (as a restaurant critic) lost her sense of smell and taste. She relocated to Boston where the plants are different and the winter freezes everything—surprise, she can smell and taste again.

Sidepoint, SLC, UT is awesome. Amazing food and environment there.

Forums > Living in Kunming > Life in Kunming

Okay...well, apologies if that was taken the wrong way. I meant that if you had a stable income and could make more in KM, then the biggest hurdle most people faced would be gone. In any event, enjoy trying to figure things out.

Forums > Living in Kunming > Life in Kunming

If you can make more in Kunming, feel free to relocate. Cost of living is much lower. As an example, my cousin lives in Kowloon in a 45m box and pays about 15X more for rent than it costs to get a high-rise place in the center of Kunming a with amenities and a view. Wife and kids may find it a bit isolating though.

Forums > Living in Kunming > Anyone doing the BK biggest eater contest?

Matt, I don't think anyone has implied that your food views are not sincerely held—only that you act like a narcissistic megalomaniac. Curiosity though, if you are not trolling with posts that make up imaginary straw men like foreigners who think that BK is better than all Chinese food (seriously, try to find someone with that opinion and I will gladly fund your "guide") then I am not entirely sure what you are doing. If you actually did work as a chef and go to culinary school and take food seriously, then start acting like a professional and post something that actually gets people interested in good food.


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It equally seems inappropriate that in a country where people struggle to get adequate nutrition that by you have people driving jaguars & BMWs and innumerable Gucci/Prada/Louis Vuitton boutiques...not to mention the obsessions with smartphones.... c'est la vie I suppose.

So, after a few weeks of trying to get over the shock of the site looking so different, I have to say I still am loathe to come onto GoKunming with the new look. Don't get me wrong, there are great improvements and the site design has some pluses... however, it is not a site design that works with large multicolored advertisements running everywhere. The dark background of the older site made these seem less garish, but the new light color gradually just means that all I see is the ads.

As a second (related) note, this site does look nice on touch devices, but the lack of framing (like the old site had) can make going through the forums or classifieds an irritating experience.

best of luck in the growing pains.


yes, the observatory is part of the Chinese Academy of Sciences and is open for educational visits to the public. They have a great observation tower with a sun telescope you can view (which is 7 flights of stairs up an old Maoist era tower—very cool), as well as an older but still cool IMAX dome-style theater where you watch some films about movement of the stars in Yunnan (all in Chinese). There aren't any foreign staff, so the tour would be entirely in thick Kungminghau. There is also a great hole in the wall museum with old astronomical instruments, some meteor fragments and a few exhibits on Chinese astronomy.

When I was there 2 months ago, the old road the connects the observatory to the city had been torn out and we had to drive on muddy clay. It's also pretty far out (near the airportish), and the facility is OLD. Most of the scientists/their families/support staff are really friendly, and most had never seen a foreign visitor before.

If you have enough people who are interested, we could get a minibus and arrange a tour via their sister Zoological institute on Jiaochang Donglu.

I wouldnt exactly call all non-Euro/American principles of land ownership fair and equitable either. Many cultures have cut up the land they lived on and turned oases into deserts—definitely not a new "western" phenomenon. That said, in general the issue of the moon has been settled in principle by international conventions, but enforcement wasn't really included because no one has yet figured out how to extract resources from space and get them back to earth at a reasonable cost. Out of sheer curiosity though, what would be terrible about a country/company owning an asteroid and mining it? Don't get me wrong, seeing the coca-cola logo on the moon wouldn't be fun, but we are not nearly into that realm yet.



Slight unrated update here... I was in again and spoke to Sandra's partner, and he agreed there could be a greater selection of items (especially meat/cheese-wise) so he mentioned that several new products would be coming out shortly. So, not to say that dudeson's review was inaccurate (given his description, it's an entirely fair assessment from his experience), but mostly just to report that there should be some things worth going back to try.