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Forums > Study > Introduce a high quality institution for study mandarin chinese

They also promised me the same thing in July. But come August they wouldn't let me attend the classes I wanted. They forced me to pay tuition saying the police would send me home otherwise. Never arranged classes. Refused to refund my tuition when I changed schools after not having a single class. Only stating that the director responsible has been fired for it.

Forums > Study > thoughts on study at KCELC?

So does this mean I can finally get my tuition refunded? I never was able to attend a single class, but they forced me to pay tuition in August threatening to cancel my student visa. The management at the time said they would not repay it when I switched schools.

Forums > Living in Kunming > School unwilling to pay for work done?

A few days late is one thing, but more than a week?? Two months in a row?? If that happened I'd tell them to start paying once a week, and if they are more than a day late then stop teaching until they pay you.

Forums > Study > Introduce a high quality institution for study mandarin chinese

Well, I give the management of the west campus a big thumbs down. I arrived in Kunming in July, and the director(Loris) promised I could take the classes I wanted even if no other students signed up for them. My gut feeling wasn't so great to begin with, at the time because he smoked in the school, and let other people smoke in the school.

I guess next time I'll follow my gut feeling because come August and I went to pick up my schedule, and he wouldn't let me take the classes I wanted. Said that I had to pay for the classes they arranged for me. The same teacher the whole week, and a terrible textbook unless you enjoy learning about "beijing" culture.

I asked for a few weeks to find a different school, but he repeatedly emphasized that the police would take away my student visa. I just recently switched schools and surprise surprise they didn't refund any of my tuition.

Live and learn I guess. On the bright side I quite like the school I switched to, KUST Northern Language Institute


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Huh? How is Yunnan distinctive from rural areas in any other country with a centrally controlled economic system(which is pretty much any "modern and developed" country today)? How is The Brother's Jiang expanding everywhere in Yunnan different from Starbucks trying to expand in Yunnan?

Do you think Iowa has lost its distinctness because of all the Mexican and Chinese restaurants that have opened up? Oh wait, even though they almost all serve the same food, and their suppliers are almost all the same... it's so much better because they all have a different name... cripes, it's just marketing.

You can go to any city in Yunnan and you will see the same products being sold in all of them. What does it matter if the name of the store is in Chinese or in English? Does this somehow prevent you from speaking to the people who work there? Does it stop you from taking your time? It's just a marketing symbol, get over it.



Cheese tasted great. Much better than other pizza joints.


Excellent salad bar. Hamburgers are usually ok. The fancier dishes were a little lacking.

Giving it a 4 stars for the salad bar. If you were going there for "fine dining" then probably best to go somewhere else.

The store also has some nice imported food(though obviously Metro is cheaper for some things). The freshly baked goods are nice too.


Seems to be pretty hit or miss. First time I went there the pizza and hamburgers were great. 2nd time the pizza was terrible, and the hamburger was ok. 3rd time the pizza was ok, but people were smoking inside by the time we left. Guess the no smoking policy is not enforced.


Not bad. Pretty much what you would expect, but expensive for China.


Expensive, but decent bread. Other places are better, but not bad if you're in a hurry.