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"I wouldn't be surprised if, like Magnifico mentioned, this was a forum thread purposely started by a close friend of the owner to help give more exposure and create a buzz, since the Latest Reviews container doesn't appear anywhere on the main parts of the site."

Wow..interesting idea. But if you know any of the people at Brooklyn, you'd realize they would never do this and not pay too much mind to a couple of negative remarks on a GoK forum. The only reason I'm writing is because this forum seemed to be going in the "OMG 18700 kuai for a pizza!?" route. I like this place and I don't want to see their business hurt from the snowball of negativity that seems to overtake most of GoK's threads these days..especially 'proven' (in one's own head) conspiracies of respectful business owners starting threads on GoK to spark buzz about their business. If anyone thinks this is a 'conspiracy thread to get people talking', you need to go down to Brooklyn at 7PM and see how much they need a 'conspiratorial bump' from GoK readers..lame...

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Sorry Tim. Didn't mean to imply that you guys were affiliated..just wanted to give respect for the best draft beer in Kunming! But, looks like you guys will have some healthy competition soon! :)

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Alien: thanks for a balanced, constructive review of the place.

Prices are a bit high, but what expat run place in Kunming is cheap these days?? With 'Great Australian Bite opening tonight, French cafe opposite Brooklyn, this area is quickly developing into a much more welcoming, expat pleasing (and cultured local) area than 'fu-er-dai' wenlin jie.

Let's encourage them to get those other taps going! 4 draft lines in a place is a great luxury in Kunming! Respect to O'riely's for starting that trend!

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Magnifico, the point was that people who are not in Brooklyn shouldn't complain if the really good pizza they are eating in KUNMING is not exactly the same as in NY (even though the name IS Brooklyn Pizza; the expectation of pizza transplanted from NY is a bit extreme).

AndrewD: giving constructive criticism (ie. I hope the confusion with the ordering process gets solved) is helpful. Going on an internet forum to write about negative experiences against a newly opened business with way more positives than "they forgot my order once when they first opened" is not helpful. Did this person tell the owners? Probably not. Did this person tell half of Kunming's expat population. Yes.

My point of that late-night rant (perhaps not so clear cut) was that it would be nice if GoK readers/posters offer constructive criticism and support (tell the owners..i don't think they have time to read GoK these days) rather than a orgy of 'I didn't like this..this happened to ME..2ft of pizza is how much?? but I don't realize how big 2ft is' mentality.

Support your local expat businesses trying to bring a little piece of home to this outpost in China called Kunming. Everybody will be better off for it...even you!

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Decent prices, delicious food, great quality, excellent beer selection (and draft!) AND chill-ass people/atmosphere/ Kunming, China! Realize where you are, who's making it and what it means to the expat community, GoK posters.

Posting/complaining about a brand new establishment because it's offering a 2ft(!) UFO of a pizza for 185 (and not realizing that's a fair price); complaining about the kind, smiling, usually attentive bartender/server/manager because she forgot your order ONCE (if it's every time..understood, but trashing the place for something happening once in their first week of opening...kinda d!@k). Or, complaining that the pizza is not like in New York...

...doesn't help anybody a damn bit.

All you're doing is making others not want to go to a unique, well-executed restaurant that is just Kunming, CHINA!

Usually, I wouldn't care what posters on GoK think. But, I'd like to see this oasis of a chill restaurant/pizzeria/neighborhood bar survive in the desert of mixian.

Props Brooklyn! Keep doing what you're doing!


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@ The Dudeson's I think he was referring to more blind willingness of many Chinese to accept German beer as best without them actually trying other countries' styles. Since Germans are good (even best) at many things, many Chinese will apply their preconceptions to beer.

Adding to this is that most Chinese drank a German beer as their first foreign beer giving them an emotional attachment to strictly German beer. I've had many conversations with Chinese drinkers about their opinions on beer and it is generally:

Chinese guy: Oh, I love beer!
Me: What kind of beer do you like?
Chinese guy: German!
Me: Why?

Chinese guy: It's delicious!
Me: Have you tried Belgian, English or American beers?
Chinese guy: No, German is the best!

(end of conversation..of course, depending on the level of inebriation or awkward silence, the rare inquiry to other countries' styles at times is asked)

My point is it's not 'German bashing' from craft brew enthusiasts, it's observation of countless conversations with Chinese about their experience with world beer culture. I've even asked a brewer/equipment manufacturer about styles he makes: only German lagers. Then, I asked him about interest in other styles..nope!

Don't get me wrong, Germans make great beer. But, when one doesn't even have any interest in the other traditional styles as well as the new craft styles popping off all over the world, other enthusiasts/brewers will not take you too seriously these days.

Darryl is a brave soul to tackle this dearth of beer knowledge in China/Kunming with KCBS. Seeing as he earns no money from it, it's quite respectable. And, his observation about Chinese beer drinkers—spot on!

Thankfully, local impressions seem to be changing with new styles and countries represented in many bars throughout Kunming. A bar by Green Lake, 'Fun Time' (where KCBS gathered for the 'beer pairings' last meeting), doesn't even serve Chinese beer! Times—they (hopefully) are a-changin'!



Wang, I live on Jianshe Lu. Any chance of delivery there? If not, perhaps you can do just weekend delivery to center? Seems like many are interested in having your delivery outside the north :)


I'd have to second tommann's review. I stayed there last month after not being able to find a room at other guesthouses. I thought it was supposed to have a decent review from Lonely Planet, but maybe that was quite some time ago.

I think I had to pay 120 kuai for a low quality room (plywood 'riser' with cheap mattress..I've slept on futons with better mattresses).

Worst of all were the 'bathrooms'. The toilets were separated by nothing more than a sheet. The showers (both rooms I stayed in there) had mildew ALL over them. Typical Yunnan cleaning job ('if it gets wet, it's clean!').

The courtyard was OK, the dogs sweet but very smelly when I was there (not very inviting for a guesthouse seeing they were huge St. Bernards), and staff were OK...the only reason I gave it at least a star.

As for the rooms, they'd probably get a negative rating for the price..awful!


FYI, google has re-named the restaurant: "El Salvador". Viva El Salvador for it's Brooklyn Brewery beers and Mexican breakfast! (Is it possible to get better meat for burgers though? Would kill for a good burger on wenlin..)


Always have the yellow curry, my gf gets the tomyumgoong and we get veggies, etc. on side. Never disappoints to have a meal here. I love Thai food and the other 'classy' thai restaurants aren't really something I wanna try for over-priced thai food which i can get close to at home.

This is an affordable, relatively good Thai Kunming! True the green curry was disappointing (I had it when I first went, tried the yellow and have never gone back), but other dishes are good enough to redeem this place. I'm actually surprised at the bad review about the tomyumgoong as I am shocked at how well they can do it (though have had an off one or two) but in general has excellent flavor, kick and a decent amount of prawns usually..good lemongrass, galangal, chili mix that is quintessential Thai! I almost get it over the curry..but I'm a curry guy! The papaya salad is pretty authentic too (hard to mess that one up).

The food gets 4 stars (are some lackluster dishes) but just for BEING in Kunming and not trying to be some high-end, swanky event to have a decent curry, this place gets a tremendously well-deserved 5 stars from me..oh, and the guy agreed to deliver to my new apartment which is out of his 'delivery zone'..6 stars for that! Green Lake area, beware that these guys deliver! ;)


It seems all 'educatedman' can do is go to places and be a sully silly (3 reviews, 1 star total! haha). How did you get your 'education', man—in your mommy's lap with a silver spoon??

O'Reily's definitely has the best burger in Kunming; the best draft beer/Belgian beers in Kunming; very kind staff/owners; best sports selection; great (free) pool table. What else could you want from a 'Irish' sports bar—a leprechaun??

Perhaps 'educatedman' could find a leprechaun, get him a working visa and supply him the investment to open up a REAL Irish bar in he won't have bother GOK readers with his negativity! If you could look outside your ego 'educatedman', you'd notice that you're not in Ireland, BUT IN SW CHINA!!

GOK, please consider canceling an account so that all places local expats enjoy don't get trashed by an uneducated boy...