Forums > Study > Learning Chinese Business Practices Let me say it differently, unless you like gambling or high risk investments, it doesn't matter if you know Chinese business manners and practices, or not.
It is all in the hands of your potential partners.
The potential partner, will display his options and judge you not by the business etiquette but what he or she can use against you, to his advantage.
If you are LUCKY and he is pleased and he personally likes you and you plan, he may cooperate and you have a long and prosperous future, until he doesn't need you anymore and drop you, as you have no real power to win against him in a court. So he can act as he pleases.
Keep him happy!
If you give him a hongbao or not, if you invite an official to a banquette, or not, is not up to your try or effort but how much that person feels, thinks of you, or can benefit from you.
If you are a well planned strategist-business planner, China has too many variables and potential obstacles and risk factors. Even if you have a fantastic product, location is great, distribution network is tip-top, quality is amazing and marketing and sales is top (=an USUALLY fail-safe business plan) the chance to fail is still 50% in China (maybe even higher).
That is why many companies, even the top brands are seriously considering moving away from China,
plus a whole bunch of other major problems.
In terms of business etiquette, I saw loads of owners doing everything right, by Chinese business standards, but they still got axed, or didn't get the bid and that is the more upbeat options, as I said, I have seen my contracts been flushed down the toilet and lawyers telling me, that to win the lawyer battles I don't have the connections or budget.
So as Tiger Tiger stated. Set up a company in the family, get investments from the family as well as any other NEEDS for setting up the business. It's still a high risk by international standards, but much lower, as family is tighter than outsiders.
Usually families have a few rich uncles and aunts trying to evade taxes by investing in start ups and new business ventures.
Anning refinery fined for violation of national environmental laws
Posted by31000 US$, Wow, that's a lot of money.
I hope they will manage to keep operation after a massive financial blow, like this.
I'm not concerned about the environmental impact of the plant, the mayor said he will look into it. So nothing, to be concerned about.
Kunming to invest in public electric car fleet
Posted byE-cars should be banned, especially in China where most of the power is produced with coal. The main problem of the climate change, carbo-footprint discussion.
Unfortunately no emission, doesn't mean they are clean. Electric cars only pollute other elements.
At the moment e-cars are toys and due to the lack of range, loss of storage capacity and the dirty production of those cars and some of their components.
So unless, the technology advances dramatically, in a very short time and better storage capacity is available, and the production of battery components cleaner and away from, exploiting workers in poor countries and poisoning their water sources. It's just a problem shift, if not making things worse.
They will continue to be just, feel-good cars, but not helping the effort at all.
The future of the car and the cleanest way, is hydrogen cars and hybrids. Although for now, the production of hydrogen is still complicated, and not as clean as it could be, in a few years it will be.
If you want to help, there are investment platforms helping to put money in gas station networks. The main reason, we don't see more of them. The industry is ready, they fixed most of the hiccups. The only thing they need for the customer is a solid refueling stations network.
I also want less cars in the city and certainly smaller vehicles would help. So, for now hybrids are the best solution.
Until the power is produced emission free and the batteries getting better, E-cars are useless and more expensive than a good, efficient and reliable hybrid.
Megatrudge 2014: 400 kilometers across the Gobi
Posted byIs it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's SuperPavel.
What is an "elite" "semi" professional runner. Are you professional or amateur, and where are you elite?
You are definitely a pro in being a condescending, arrogant, 'have-it-all-figured-out'-ism
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Have you actually read your own articles.
e.g. 'The Turtle Race'
-making fun of people unprepared.
-Leader by default, of course!!! If not Pavel, who else could?
-Slinging people up and down the hills because they don't even know how to push their bikes.
-Saving a girl's life, lone wolf style, of course!
... back to the current Gobi march
If you are a long distance runner you would actually know how to take care of your feet during a race, you could actually finish an Ultra and some day actually become a pro. So maybe that's where the master splits from the novice.
And you wouldn't have to make fun of people that actually prepare proper gear before a 400km race through a desert.
And for this article:
-Dashing off with shoes tight together with dental floss. Swiss cheese socks, I guess next time you will just run with a bikini and flip flops to show those fools how it is done properly.
-You of course, being the only one knowing what he is doing including reading a GPS.
-Running 27hours straight while mocking Chinese runners for not pacing themselves...!
- Leading the flock by superiority. Leading everyone through the dark Gobi night, scaring other runners, pretending to be a wolf!!!
-Whining about ridiculous behaviour, whilst excelling at such, yourself. Plus, putting others in danger?
-You don't care about this Chinese kid taking advantage of your excellence (by the way, it's a race that's what people do in races)...until that guy is close to a TV camera??...Roooight!
And isn't that ridiculous if you don't want to give him his moment in the limelight since he overtook you. Isn't that also pretty bad sportsmanship?
-And then in the end you have to give up because you are too cool to get your feet the proper gear and treatment, due to your philosophy.
-Making fun of other participant's gear and equipment while you actually can't even finish the race.
-Making fun of people whom actually who prepared.
In my humble opinion I think you are Toropov-ing your article a lot. Should be a new word for exaggerating.
To stay faithful to your [questionable] philosophy. The stuff you need for such a race, you rarely win in a race, because it's cheap, easy to get, very easy to carry, and looks too trivial for a prize.
Pavel your stories could be great fun to read, if you would take in a little bit of humility and maybe some respect for others.
And of course if you'd stop getting off about yourself we would find out how others saw and experienced the race.
Please don't forget the times when you started and learned from others, not knowing what you were doing? How would you have reacted to an article of this kind.
So far you sound like a joke to me.
That said, ...respect for trying the Gobi and the other races.
Cheers,
A former 'elite-semi-pro runner' and paratrooper {= the "marchalots"}.
Official proposes reopening Wujiaba Airport
Posted byit wouldn't be that weird.
most big cities have 2 or more airports. so it wouldn't be that crazy to consider.
plus most foreign airlines don't even bother considering kunming for specifically the crappy kmg airport. e.g. for it's extraorbitant landing and processing fees, terrible management and for christsake not even having an updated ILS.
a runway in wujiabao would be welcomed at least by me. closer to the city less bad weather and less hassle.
but there is no way that some rich real estate developer will let go of his multi billion RMB project. although i still hope they reopen even if just with one small terminal for cheap carriers.
the way changshui is run it will mainly stay provincial anyway since other international airlines will avoid kmg. coz they got a great and working airport in chengdu. from there they could just code share with local airlines.saves trouble and money.
another chinese success story how to f*** up a whole airport by idiots making idiot decisions. how hard could it be to choose a location for an airport?
Yunnan air routes a hot commodity
Posted byYeah a European directflight would be fantastic, sweet!
But as far as I know (I was told) and spoiler alert....the landing, processing and fuel fees are so gigantic in Yunnan, (of course primarily for foreign airlines) that this guy told me the ticket price would be ridiculously high, after the promotion period.
He estimated that if the airport fees won't be lowered it would still make more sense financially to fly through other 'real' hubs.
Hopefully this stupid and untrue philosophy of, 'charge high - gain high profit' will change someday so that we get the perks of a normalized market. Until then I try to not use the Changshui airport, it's China's worst airport by fay, anyway.