Forums > Food & Drink > Western-run places in KM too expensive? @Colinflahive
First, you don't have to justify your business idea or costs calculations.
For all you should care you could charge 1000 RMB for a Coke. It's your successful business and how much profit you make, or how you make it, is as you please.
But you are
comparing 2 different things.
The local food market price vs. bulk and F&B supplier prices.
I am sure that your bulk purchase costs have not changed.
The same goes for staff salaries, unless you hire experienced, already trained staff.
The local staff we hired was had an increase of 500RMB from 10 years ago. Without experience and training in the restaurant business 1500 RMB - 2000RMB [the years ago] to nowadays 2500 RMB to 3000 RMB. All depending on skill and experience. A good staff manager or bar manager, of course can ask for more.
And I am sure that the prices you pay for coffee, booze and food ingredients have not changed a lot in the last ten years, -when buying large quantities.
Smoked salmon is very cheap, from what I remember at METRO. A bit over 100RMB for 700gram of already smoked salmon. 139RMB for a kilo of uncured salmon, if you want to trouble yourself or fry it.
Burmese avocados are also rather cheap when bought in bulk through the right suppliers, same goes with vegetables and even meat [including beef].
There have been increases in prices but in my calculations, it doesn't justify what many owners do. To link their overall prices to single market items, or just raise whenever they feel like, when the news report tofu prices
to increase.
Plus, you cannot just add RMB's on all items. A restaurant lives from crowds of customers and talking about what a bowl of noodles costs has little to do with the business concept of a bar or restaurant
Well of course you can all do that and I don't have a problem with that, at all. It is a business and it shall thrive, but you have to expect complaints from customers and them argue about increases of prices.
And they are right. It cannot be that Kunming is more expansive, or at least on the same price level with Beijing or Shanghai.
that just doesn't add up
The only agreeable point is rent, but many have dodged that bullet by moving to a cost friendlier location.
I understand the frustration of some customers, I only visit two foreign owned joints in Kunming, because all others are overpriced for the quality and portions.
In short having a foreign restaurant is still a very good business with very large profit margins.
You guys seem to have a very good life, otherwise you wouldn't run the café and expand. Right?
Chinese village turns to mass divorce in face of impending demolition
Posted by@alien
My grandparents were rather poor. My parents are walking into poverty, after retirement and they would benefit financially from a divorce and still, ...they are not.
-"Anyway, legal marriage certificates are only legal arrangements."-
I know you must defend everything Chinese, but what does that even mean?
There aren't religious weddings for most Chinese beyond a feast and celebrations, no exchange of vows,etc.
So what's left, after the legal marriage, which by the way is all that defines a Chinese marriage,officially?
Is it justified that they try to milk the rich and powerful? Hell yeah!
Is it still greedy? Hell yeah!
Who says Chinese aren't romantic?...lol
Chinese village turns to mass divorce in face of impending demolition
Posted by@Dan
Still,...
They will get houses in the wirst spots of Chenggong, that the real estate company couldn't sell otherwise.
I wouldn't just divorce for a little bit of property.
If you want to protest against those powers, I could of other more effective ways.
But it's a good selling strategy. Showing the real estate or factory owners; "Hey, we only care about money, here cash in our marriage certificate,since we don't value anything. Now give us a second house....See, powerful owners, we are exactly like you."
Foreign airlines seek expansion into China's second-tier markets
Posted by@Dazzer
On the spot!!!
Of course Changshui and Kunming will f**k it up.What don't they f-up.
The demand is already there. Even as a hub to shorten trips to other Asian places. But what I heard is, that fees are too high in Kunming, unless you are a Chinese airline. So they'd rather fly to Chengdu or Guangzhou. Actually, Kunming is so stupid, Wuhan figured that one out and is already planning to snatch possible routes from Kunming.
I am so looking forward to, on who Kunming will blame it on. Probably Japanese or foreigners in general....lol
Chinese village turns to mass divorce in face of impending demolition
Posted byIt's sad that people throw away 45 years of marriage for a little bit of money. It shows where the value is. Chinese society is so superior. It's 5000 years old ...lol
Kunming now has more than 200 earthquake "shelters"
Posted byThey sounds less like shelters but more like gathering or concentration hot spots for after the earthquake. For the few people surviving collapsing buildings due to bad constuctions.
I heard there is only one building, made to whitstand a magnitude. The Fudian Bank building at zhenyi fang. Code dictates to build quake safe houses but they are more expensive, so many construction companies choose to bribe over using more steel. Like 2008 in Sichuan.
Don't know if I'd bother, after surviving the collapse of our house, to walk a few kilometers to see other people being equally ignored by emergency services.
I can't imagine how Kunming would handle an earthquake, remembering the fog disaster at the airport . lol