The Yunnan Copper Group is a state company and therefore not allowed to branch out in other activities then their core business. This excludes anything to do with equine.
The rest of your story is as well typical the way of working of these scammers.
Anything coming from a @vip.163.com address has to be regarded as fake.
So safe yourself the effort; you are dealing with scammers.
Liumingke1233 thank you. Is there a way I can prove it is a scam? Or is there any recommendation you can tell me?
Jose Antonio
Te escribo en español como me imagino hablas.
Me llama la atención acerca del correo:
Haoming6@vip.162.com
Es el mismo que me llegó de Chen Haojie, Project Manajer de la Yunnan Copper Group.
Esto fue para firmar el contrato de un hotel.
Fui a China, me reuní con el y firme el contrato el año pasado.
Hasta la fecha no recibo nada excepto correos diciéndome que todo se atrasó por problemas del gobierno local.
Fui a la embajada China en SANTIAGO y me dijeron que todo estaba bien y que viajara.
A la vuelta se lavan las manos.
Una cosa importante: compre regalos y el día que partí me invitaron a un almuerzo con mucha gente de la empresa. Y me regalaron cajas de té Puer.
Es raro pero aún no se que creer.
De hecho el contrato fue revisado en la embajada China en SANTIAGO y me digerían que estaba en regla.
Saludos
Yes you can proof it is a scam by coming here, and like Francisco Javier spend 5000 USD on cigars and get in return 50 kuai worse of Puer tea and a useless contract.
Hello Lemon Lover:
Yes at all you are talking. For other part in Pro Chile, people said that is a normal behavior in the negotiations in China with others from Chile.
And then said I must be patience to wait a response because there are new policies about corruptions in the Chinese businessman. They ask for gifts like the cigars I spent, and after a lot time the busyness result well.
But I do not know if this Chen Haojie is a true person or not. Because the same email address is associated to a Cheng Hong???
For that reason I believe this is a real SCAMER and I will report in Chile for future victims
Regards
Any one knows a lawyer in Kunming.
I have photographs of all people that went to the Notary to sign the contract.
Then I think is very easy find them by the Police there.
＠Jose
Most europeans use an experienced european representative on the ground - as their in-country rep - who knows how to do due diligence.
I suggest you consider this - contact your local chamber of commerce in China to help weed out fraudulent or unfeasible projects.
I did that along ago. Nothing happens either.
In Chile at less there aren't help in this cases.
A company which wants to do business with you, should pay you flights, hotels and reimburse your time for coming to China in advance! (just as an example, the last office i worked at, invited some well known architects as consultants, paid 25k British Pounds for one week for 5 ppl)
At least that's what i know from working with Chinese companies. I have worked 4 years on projects in Shanghai, Chongqing and other cities (urban design) in an office in Germany and four years in a Chinese Company (architecture) in Kunming. We always had Chinese students and architects working in the office, who would know of "strange" Chinese customs and of course the language.
if you are a small company, why did they choose you? if you haven't been internationally published and accredited in your field it is very unlikely that some random business knocks at your door and offers the million dollar contract.
Never brought cigars anywhere, but maybe a local special wine, beer, beer glasses or (with architects popular) stationary products. never worth more than 50 Euros or so.
a serious company will send you their portfolio, contacts and won't be flakey.
don't waste your time and money coming here and spend it on a, as mentioned earlier, representative or a Chinese employee. if you want to access the Chinese market, you will need to hire some Chinese people anyway. Else it's impossible, in my opinion. Someone who can have a look at your contracts should be useful as well.
good luck!
Kunming is perhaps not the best city to break into the Chinese market. Unless you only want to be local to Kunming.
