Forums > Food & Drink > Western-run places in KM too expensive? @Colinflahive
First, you don't have to justify your business idea or costs calculations.
For all you should care you could charge 1000 RMB for a Coke. It's your successful business and how much profit you make, or how you make it, is as you please.
But you are
comparing 2 different things.
The local food market price vs. bulk and F&B supplier prices.
I am sure that your bulk purchase costs have not changed.
The same goes for staff salaries, unless you hire experienced, already trained staff.
The local staff we hired was had an increase of 500RMB from 10 years ago. Without experience and training in the restaurant business 1500 RMB - 2000RMB [the years ago] to nowadays 2500 RMB to 3000 RMB. All depending on skill and experience. A good staff manager or bar manager, of course can ask for more.
And I am sure that the prices you pay for coffee, booze and food ingredients have not changed a lot in the last ten years, -when buying large quantities.
Smoked salmon is very cheap, from what I remember at METRO. A bit over 100RMB for 700gram of already smoked salmon. 139RMB for a kilo of uncured salmon, if you want to trouble yourself or fry it.
Burmese avocados are also rather cheap when bought in bulk through the right suppliers, same goes with vegetables and even meat [including beef].
There have been increases in prices but in my calculations, it doesn't justify what many owners do. To link their overall prices to single market items, or just raise whenever they feel like, when the news report tofu prices
to increase.
Plus, you cannot just add RMB's on all items. A restaurant lives from crowds of customers and talking about what a bowl of noodles costs has little to do with the business concept of a bar or restaurant
Well of course you can all do that and I don't have a problem with that, at all. It is a business and it shall thrive, but you have to expect complaints from customers and them argue about increases of prices.
And they are right. It cannot be that Kunming is more expansive, or at least on the same price level with Beijing or Shanghai.
that just doesn't add up
The only agreeable point is rent, but many have dodged that bullet by moving to a cost friendlier location.
I understand the frustration of some customers, I only visit two foreign owned joints in Kunming, because all others are overpriced for the quality and portions.
In short having a foreign restaurant is still a very good business with very large profit margins.
You guys seem to have a very good life, otherwise you wouldn't run the café and expand. Right?
Wrongful murder conviction spawns US$1.45 million lawsuit
发布者Does anyone know who poisened the baby?
As much as the article said, it still isn't clear who is the murderer.
Why exactly was she pardoned? Any new suspects or evidence?
Chinese village turns to mass divorce in face of impending demolition
发布者Also away from the ethic issue (if you think, that there is an issue). It has serious implications, if they get just one flat, ownership, inheritance, banking, general ownership of land, ....there is plenty of stuff, that needs to be thought and taken care off.
If they get lucky and get 2 flats, lucky them. But if not, well... I guess they could just marry again. Still not bad, throwing a big wedding party at an old timers age. lol
Chinese village turns to mass divorce in face of impending demolition
发布者@king
Oh and yeah my grandparents were never faced with that life shattering dilemma, they were just busy with surviving. So, they were luckier than those old folks in the article. Some people are lucky that they can trade a marriage....lol
Chinese village turns to mass divorce in face of impending demolition
发布者@king
You are totally right. 45 years, some of them went. They have seen the darkest parts of Chinese history and survived famines and cultural revolution, without a problem. But the moment they can cash in, there marriage their certificates......- boooooom !!!! They are running to the divorce lawyer.
As I said, as divorced seniors, my parents could make some extra bucks. But they are probably stupid and not loving each other enough, to file for divorce.
I know I am questioning something Chinese, so I understand your frustration and potential hatred. ;)
Chinese village turns to mass divorce in face of impending demolition
发布者@king
It's greed, you can turn it as much as you want. It's still greed.
So, how are they committed to each other? Their vows? Love? Commitment?
Would you mind to elaborate?
But you know what? I don't even disagree but would you just cancel your marriage for the slim CHANCE of getting a free flat?
What message does it send? How does it feel?
But for me my marriage (and the red book as proof) certificate that comes with it. Means more than a joker card.
But again I am questioning something Chinese so I understand the hatred.
Do you know a lot about traditional Chinese marriage? What it is built on, the cornerstones of a Chinese marriage?
If they wanted to go after more money or better flats, they could go for it as a couple. Better deals have been negotiated plenty of times, without throwing away your marriage.
But greed is greed, so why take the hard road.