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Forums > Living in Kunming > thumbs up & down

My post got 12 downvotes for a mere observation.

HFCAMPO's got 11...

I can't see how this is not a vindictive choice. My post has not been offensive, against any forum rules.

I have read absolutely reasonable posts, which got downvoted and other ridiculous posts who get thumbs up, on both ,..or more,...sides.

I can't see how this is a good thing.

Now gokunming, gave a tool for the loudest to shout.

My recommendation is, show the votes and voters, only this way you can make sure that people are not just being judged by an old vendetta or other issues.

In my opinion it failed.
I personally will reject any vote, to make sure the net will stay open an opinions can be seen, for as long as possible.

I didn't like the ferocity of the old forum but at least it was, with the help of the admin, free and fair. Not beautiful but fair.

The only thing the current voting system enhances is one dominant train of thought of the first few voters, and since you only need 3-4 votes to hide a post, you will have in the end the dominance of one group and since they are the strongest one an often the first to vote, it doesn't prove anything about the argument or thought or even the accuracy of the statement.

So in the end we will have a certain amount of populism. And the hissy fits, whom we all have been guilty of are just turned passive now. But they are still there.

I hope that the gokunming staff can find a better solution, than the current one.

I am not even defending my opinion, just skim through the post an votes, most of the hidden posts are not even close to be mean or offensive, they are just not reflecting the votes of a few of the most frequent and not most liberal posters, and gokunming made them judges now.

Maybe the whole thing is a good idea but it needs a lot of adjustments.

Oh and I know this post will be killed instantly.

So I hope that even the posters that hate me, can just for once not judge me, down or up.

I don't need your vote, but maybe you can let others live by not judging....

just a thought, nothing o hate me for. But my apologies if I offended you. LOVE!

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Forums > Living in Kunming > thumbs up & down

I don't think that the thumbs are really helping in the long run.

First they are rather new and the post is not deleted but just hidden. One click and you can still see what was posted.

From what I have seen, they are mostly helping to hide unpopular post. Even though there wasn't anything against the posting rules, not even strong argumentation, but more than 3 people don't like it and it's gone.
So it's just streaming opinions from which ever group or individual is represented stronger, or which of these people are online to give negative clicks, or even old rivalries could get you a default click from a poster, just because he doesn't like you.

I have not used them yet, except once to try, but it was a positive one anyway.

Useless for what they aimed for.

I have seen a thread were 2 people were still fighting it out after both threads were hidden.

IMO there just hasn't been a strong emotionally charged thread for another poster multi-page-bashing.

I hope it stays that way. :)

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Cacao mexican restaurant ?

I went twice and they had at least two different chefs. One was a Mexican fella, a real jerk and his food was terrible, there was another chef, never saw or met him but he actually he/she made some very authentic Mexican/Latin American food, for a short while.

But as with many authentic food joints, they don't survive very long, especially not in China, where people are so stubborn and stiff about flavors.

Which is quite surprising, as one would think putting tons of chili on everything, would be a big success in China...:)

But good Mexican food, and drinks in Kunming, would be fantastic. Worth a monthly visit. yum!!

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Forums > Food & Drink > Western-run places in KM too expensive?

@Alien
I am not criticizing Sal's.

Training your own staff is cheaper, if you have one good team manager and you can keep the starting salary low.
Keep in mind that there are many other diners in Beijing, Shanghai, and even in Kunming as well.

And I wouldn't use the Kunming foreign dining scene as a standard for judging good staff.

The staff at Sal is nice, I am not saying that they aren't.

If you want to get a great service experience, you should try HaiDiLao HotPot. At least in the one tier cities.

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Also away from the ethic issue (if you think, that there is an issue). It has serious implications, if they get just one flat, ownership, inheritance, banking, general ownership of land, ....there is plenty of stuff, that needs to be thought and taken care off.

If they get lucky and get 2 flats, lucky them. But if not, well... I guess they could just marry again. Still not bad, throwing a big wedding party at an old timers age. lol

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@king
You are totally right. 45 years, some of them went. They have seen the darkest parts of Chinese history and survived famines and cultural revolution, without a problem. But the moment they can cash in, there marriage their certificates......- boooooom !!!! They are running to the divorce lawyer.

As I said, as divorced seniors, my parents could make some extra bucks. But they are probably stupid and not loving each other enough, to file for divorce.
I know I am questioning something Chinese, so I understand your frustration and potential hatred. ;)

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@king
It's greed, you can turn it as much as you want. It's still greed.
So, how are they committed to each other? Their vows? Love? Commitment?
Would you mind to elaborate?

But you know what? I don't even disagree but would you just cancel your marriage for the slim CHANCE of getting a free flat?
What message does it send? How does it feel?
But for me my marriage (and the red book as proof) certificate that comes with it. Means more than a joker card.
But again I am questioning something Chinese so I understand the hatred.

Do you know a lot about traditional Chinese marriage? What it is built on, the cornerstones of a Chinese marriage?

If they wanted to go after more money or better flats, they could go for it as a couple. Better deals have been negotiated plenty of times, without throwing away your marriage.

But greed is greed, so why take the hard road.

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Sorry this probably belongs into the forum section...But just to clarify and thanks to overrated reviews I went to CC with high expectations to get some delicacies, I wanted to surprise my wife with a delicacy and there was absolutely nothing that Parkson, Metro or Carrefour don't have.I don't like Chorizo so there has to be more than just that to make me give 5 stars.Plus I already gave them 3 stars, for the very positive things I experienced.There are no products that other shops don't offer, except if their products are home made but I didn't see any labels stating it's organic or home made.For the cold cuts I found as well as the cheeses are all (or most) available at other stores.I didn't know that they make sandwiches and I will give that a try especially knowing that Sandra is involved in the making which usually leads to a yummy tummy.But again as delicacy shop it's very unimpressive and as stated before I believe it will get better. So I am not bashing it but trying to help the owners to give some ideas not just applause because I like Sandra's food...which I do.So I recommend to give realistic reviews. 5 stars just because you like one item there will just disappoint potential CC patrons that are not going for Sandwiches or Chorizo.It's a shop with tons of potential and I will come back to try the Sandwich and see what else they will have in future. But giving more than 3 stars for what I saw wouldn't be fair.

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I went there and all the fake Ikea (furniture) items were almost twice as much as the originals at Ikea. The fixing guys are good but as mentioned above at least need a week or two to drill 4 holes in the wall.

The little knick knacks are ok and reasonably priced. For real furniture, I wouldn't buy there. Better and cheaper options available. But good for cheap and nice decorations and accessories.

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I practiced there for a few weeks but unforntunately I had to stop, due to relocation.
It's a good school but what I didn't like was the Martial Arts blend between traditional kungfu and modern wushu, similar to the Henan one.
But I still like it for the good exercise, staff and classmates.

I am not sure if there are actually some real kungfu monks, so if you are looking for the full martial package, you might get disappointed, as almost anywhere in China.

Be aware that practice is not in the temple but in a kungfu school one block away

That said, it is in my opinion the best choice in Kunming to practice the closest to real martial arts (besides taiji). And it's very reasonably priced.