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View all- December 21, 2011
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Forums > Living in Kunming > Salsa in Kunming
Do we know each other ?
- December 21, 2011
- December 21, 2011
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Forums > Living in Kunming > Salsa in Kunming
Hi Orchid1120,
Although I am still a beginner, I plan to improve quickly. If you're still looking for partners (and don't mind if they are less experienced than you), I'm in. The more we dance, the better I'll be :op
You can contact me at nathaniel @ farouz .net
- December 21, 2011
- December 5, 2011
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Forums > Living in Kunming > Salsa in Kunming
I have a lot of Salsa, Merengue and Bachata, I will come and bring it.
- December 5, 2011
- November 17, 2011
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Forums > Living in Kunming > "Foreigner Work Permit"
Work permit is one thing, Z ("Work") visa is another one. Work permit allows you to work in China, Z visa (actually "Resident permit") enables you to live in China. It is almost impossible to get your Z visa without having a work permit. However, if previously you were employed by a company, you might probably never have heard about your work permit: your company was just keeping the document (which is the way it works in China, since they have to show it in case of inspection, and since you need it for nothing else than to get your Z visa).
Here, you need to set up your company, to employ yourself, provide the administration the relevant documents so that they can issue you a work permit. Then, this work permit will allow you to apply for a Z Resident permit (Z visa).
- November 17, 2011
- November 9, 2011
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Forums > Living in Kunming > Should you study Chinese?
How many of those who say that speaking Chinese is not needed have:
- Actually worked in their life ?
- Actually worked in China in a business which is not English teaching, tourism, or running a cafe where 50% of customers are foreigners ?I'm not gonna enter into the debate of who will be the dominant economical or cultural power in 10 years. Just give some experience-based facts from China's business life, to answer the question of the first poster:
Unless you look for the jobs I mentioned above (in which case the previous answers are valid, but these jobs are usually either short term jobs for young people/students or capped at some point in terms of revenu), I would say: Yes, you need to learn Chinese, as it clearly makes a difference. In short: it makes you more valuable on the job market and broadens your scope of accessible jobs.
Desirability for a foreign company:
- China scares foreign companies (and this will not change soon), and some skills are not yet findable in China (it is evolving, but not that fast, and with great differences depending on the region where you are), so foreign companies are still willing to hire expats. Among the skills they will be looking for is of course Chinese language.Desirability for a Chinese company:
- Some companies with development strategy abroad are looking for foreigners to support their sales, or their market entry, or their cultural/legal/etc. understanding of the target country. All the people I know who are occupying such a position have been recruited among other for their fluency in Chinese, which enables them to deal with the daily work with their colleagues in their native language. Employees are not willing to change their working language just to make 1 or 2 people welcome in the company
Government
- One of the key to succeed in business in China is relations with government. Government people are often very nationalists, they are not English-trained, they are aware of their power (China: you love it or you leave it), so they don't see why they should speak another language than Chinese to you. On the other hand, they appreciate talking with Chinese-speaking foreigners, as they understand it as respect for their culture (vs. economic colonialism from the West) and as a sign of long term commitment to do business with them. (These are actually true with any business partner, but I would say especially with government people).Personal economics:
- You can add to your salary the salary of the translator that you don't need any more if you speak Chinese
- You can add to your productivity the time you won't spend listening/reading to translations or being translated yourself. That's a lot of time.
- You can add to your mind health all the advantages of understanding what's happening around you and of not getting mad because of recurring misunderstanding (how many times have I seen foreigners starting to shout at people just because they actually missed some points in the discussion or the instructions...)
- November 9, 2011
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May 3, 2011
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Kunming > Game Café
格门I had the privilege to be among the first ones to give a try to Game Cafe's new menu !
I've not been disappointed: besides the friendliness of the owners, I've been amazed by the taste of the food: not only you get quantity but also quality, for a rather reasonable price !
I strongly recommend it, and for sure I will come back, not only to play games !Thanks Wendy and Guillaume
(I especially appreciated the goat cheese in the 4-cheese pizza, so hard to find elsewhere in Kunming !)
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Tianli
August 24, 2010
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Kunming > Vintage Café
茴转时光I disagree with the latest posts:
- Vintage's service is as slow as before,
- staff is as unfriendly as before,
- and the double cheeseburger is hard as concrete.The only nice thing about this place: the cakes (when they have it)... unfortunately not enough to balance the rest.
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