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Forums > Living in Kunming > can you buy these things in Kunming?

Don't know about the coconut stuff as they're not prolific and indigenous to Kunming. Most of what I see is the simple fresh coconuts with straws things.

As for fake stuff - herd mentality isn't always reliable - but somewhat safer - if you don't see any local chinese buying product at the wet market (or a restaurant for that matter) - avoidance is usually a good idea.

So be observant and aware of your environment - pay attention.

Forums > Living in Kunming > can you buy these things in Kunming?


All of the appliances you mentioned are available either online (new and or used) or from exiting expats.

ONLINE WEBSITE (china's equivalent of amazon). As the site's in English only - you'll need to use machine translation software to dig around blindly until you figure out the correct Chinese phrase for what you seek. You'll need a Chinese bank account AND it has to be enabled for web access.

You'll also need to signup with (chinese version). For the ID card - use your passport, but add LEADING (in front of) zeroes to pad the passport number so it totals the 18 digits common for Chinese ID cards (which you can't get).

And finally - you'll need a local mobile phone - all require your passport for registration. If they people helping you can't seem to get it done - remember the leading zeroes trick...


For the foodstuff(s) - any of the major farmer's markets (aka wet markets) around where you live will carry everything you need except the milk. You'll need to go to the milk store for that.

I'm lactose intolerant - but I have NO SERIOUS PROBLEMS with the New Zealand imported and packaged whole cream milk (1 liter per container), which we buy by the case (actually, 2 cases per month) - although there was that botulism scare a few years back...

You can also checkout and or for the more genuine appliances.

We also have a couple of metro wholesale warehouses (german company). As a foreigner, just show your passport and they'll give you a membership card. For the Metro addresses, check the listings page on this website.

If your chinese is pretty good - you can also shop metro online (, but their prices actually not so competitive - so metro is best for picking up non-perishables (e.g. cereals, snacks, supplies, etc), frozen goods in bulk (like ice cream!), beverages, and imported goods...until you figure out how to make homemade Lea & Perrins sauce actually taste like Lea & Perrin's Worstershire sauce (as opposed to pipe cleaner and roach poison).

Best wishes with your upcoming visit. Kunming's a fun city and the entire province is a tourist bonanza, not to mention side trips down to the golden triangle (Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia - and you can even jet over to Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, the many new and emerging <insert prefix>-istan middle eastern nations, etc if you're more intrepid). Just make sure you pay attention to and stay current with the US Consulate/Embassy Travel Alerts.

Forums > Living in Kunming > Looking for kerosene

For most organic solvent requirements - I use WD-40 or the Chinese variant and paper towels or rags, old toothbrushes, etc. Having an old candy or cookie (biscuit) tin will help for light dipping/spraying, depending on the size of the appliance one wishes to scrub down.

Forums > Living in Kunming > BIZ Suggestions for the June KM Commodiies Expoo

1. US Commerce Trade and American Chamber of Commerce (and I'm sure the UK equivalents) published a "Doing Business in China" booklet. It's mostly focused on the more developed eastern seaboard.

China is a complicated as eastern and western Europe combined - so I find it infinitely amazing that "one book" covers all - this is equivalent to a pamphlet proclaiming "Doing Business in Europe", neglecting the rich and diverse cultures of all those people groups (before the EU).

On that note - as I understand the expo - most of these guys are SME's (Small to Medium Enterprises) looking for trading partners to represent them - with sales quotas (aka dreams).

On that note - I'd recommend you advertise yourself as that gap-filler - proposing an initial Tmall site, for a modest if not obscene fee, to help them trial the entire market of China...that has either internet or mobile internet services.

Then your only problem - import logistics, taxes, customs, government approvals, etc ad infinitum - which you can also provide for yet another negotiable fee.

Several years ago, I met the last VP of Sales for Nortel before the company finally died. His claim to fame - he helped Nortel get their equipment carrier certified for use in China - aka he was great at helping Nortel spend money.

So that's a primary issue facing all these tiny importers...the upfront costs of getting their product and or service certified for import into China.


Forums > Living in Kunming > Looking for kerosene

Not sure if you're interested, but you can also go to your local car dealer to have the engine steam cleaned - it's somewhat cleaner than spraying degreaser on the engine and letting the runoff spill into the sewers (although I'm guessing the car dealers do this in China).

It's kind of a good practice - have the engine steam cleaned with every oil change or at least once a year - helps somewhat reduce the risk of engine fires if your vehicle is a leaky thing.


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I seem to see quite few people, including kids, using the various systems, so in that regard, assuming it's economically sustainable, I personally think it's a great idea, with tremendous social value.

As for the very valid issues raised above, the system will have some growing pains as the operators and the cities learn to coexist with this new emerging social and business model.

Great article and introduction to Keats. I noticed the article did NOT touch on employee loyalty and retention programs (at the cost of profit). Keats may wish to address this kind of core infrastructure in the future, at the appropriate time.


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