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Forums > Living in Kunming > Chinese Birth Certificate with both Chi & Eng name

Technically and theoretically, it is possible to list both the Chinese and western names, assuming the computer field can hold that many characters - but the reality - impossible to get the hospital staff to enter BOTH the english and Chinese names - as it would look like one really really long name and that will create infinitely many complications for your kid in China.

We used Chinese names on their Chinese birth certificates, then used the officially translated and notarized translations to registered our kid(s) (USA) with English language names on their USA birth certificates aka Consular Report of Birth Abroad certificate (NOT inexpensive). You can also get baby passports - truly expensive baby passports - that are only good for 12 months for babies. The birth certificate is sufficient to get a passport later, which is the option we chose. Also - if you're a US Citizen - you can register the baby for a social security number at the same time. That's a point in good stead for the US Embassy/Consular Services.

IF you use the kid's US passport for residency in China - you'll need to have the birth certificate authenticated by the US State Department. They control Consular Reports of Births Abroad certificates. There are SO MANY REASONS why you would NOT want to do this, to include the expense, insurance, schooling, health insurance benefits, etc etc etc ad infinitum.

The problem with US Consular Reports of Birth Abroad certificates - the US State Department refuses to authenticate the birth certificates that they ultimately issue - they've had this insane policy since around 2012. It's well known and not expected to change within our lifetimes, POTUS Trump notwithstanding.

If you fall into this frustrating abyss - use a US visa agent (I can give you a referral) and they can get your consular report of birth abroad directly authenticated by the Chinese Embassy in Washington DC. NOT INEXPENSIVE but it's the only workaround that I know of.

Other countries - dunno. on having this problem (birth of a healthy peeing, pooping and hopefully NOT vomiting bio-machine).

Forums > Living in Kunming > House Prices

As I understand the residential real estate market for NEW properties - developers are now packaging in interior design and decoration into their packages. Previously, during the boom times, you'd only purchased bare concrete walls with basic utilities and infrastructure such as plumbing, capped water pipes, and electricity holes (if lucky) - supply your own outlets, light switches, etc.

Nowadays - apartments are generally move-in condition (BYO linens, soaps, toilet paper, etc). This added service generally costs around ¥200k for nominal furnishings, and then spirals upwards.

As always, sweeping statements regarding China, much less Yunnan and Kunming are subject to vary, but that's what I've noticed from my limited and random observations over the years.

Forums > Living in Kunming > Places (Province) to live in China.

Thanks for the info on guangxi. The altitude is lower, things are greener (more mold and mildew?), and the place just seems more progressive than Yunnan in general, based on the many projects it leads.

The GDP per capita is significantly higher (about ¥10k per year) than Yunnan, so I'd be wondering if Guangxi is a more expensive place for day-to-day living (or is Kunming just a ripoff city) - veges, fruit, meat, cooking oil, etc - staples.

Forums > Living in Kunming > Health Certificate

oh...and don't forget to ENSURE your work invitation letter (ostensibly issued by some government department) is barcoded AND addressed to the correct consulate or embassy. If it's NOT entered into the system correctly - the consulate or embassy can NOT verify your work invitation letter - yep - I had this problem also.

In addition to the work invitation letter, is the temporary visa authorization. This MUST ALSO be barcoded AND sent to the appropriate embassy or consulate.

Please note - in the USA - the embassy and the consulate do NOT communicate with each other on these visa process issues. If your documents are addressed to the consulate, the embassy cannot and will not help you...and vice versa.

Additionally - if you're home or address of residence is outside an embassy or consular jurisdiction - they will tell you to redirect your documents, applications, and visa requests to the appropriately responsible office. I thought I could get my stuff done in San Francisco - they told me they won't help me - gotta use the Los Angeles consulate. I could have used a San Francisco area address - but the point was moot - neither office could expedite my work visa without the mandatory documents and authentications.

Bring a briefcase - keep everything organized, keep copies of ALL your receipts (assuming you get reimbursed).

On another note - on the way back to China - we used e-tickets all the way - not a boarding pass stub in sight - this works wonders with the accounting department - who requires these non-existent ticket stubs to confirm we actually travelled to China, as opposed to swimming over, to save a dime.

Pardon the grammar, spelling, and vocabulary - I've been integrating qinglish to ease communications issues and be more culturally sensitive.


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I seem to see quite few people, including kids, using the various systems, so in that regard, assuming it's economically sustainable, I personally think it's a great idea, with tremendous social value.

As for the very valid issues raised above, the system will have some growing pains as the operators and the cities learn to coexist with this new emerging social and business model.

Great article and introduction to Keats. I noticed the article did NOT touch on employee loyalty and retention programs (at the cost of profit). Keats may wish to address this kind of core infrastructure in the future, at the appropriate time.


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