Lost Garden Guesthouse is a boutique hostel with a restaurant, a full bar, and two roof-top terraces. Our private rooms feature deluxe bathrooms and all rooms, including common areas, have sub-floor heating to keep you warm in the winter. We are located in a quiet neighborhood just steps away from Green Lake Park.
Come visit us and enjoy our unique, comfortable, and quiet little place. We offer a variety of services for travelers including laundry service, airport/train station pickup, and travel ticket purchase. We also feature weekend restaurant specials as well as frequent guest chef residencies.
Note: Kitchen is closed on Mondays.
To add to the previous review: there has been some discussion in the forums about the best burger in Kunming. I'll throw my vote in for Sandra's sunday brunch caramalized onion burger. Simple but fantastic.
The brunch that Sandra is hosting there is wonderful! We tried the carmelized onion burger and the avocado chicken wrap- both delicious. We had excellent, fast service as well. The rooftop is looking great these days, too. Very good place for a lazy Sunday afternoon.
I stayed for a week to visit our daughter who studies Chinese at the Yunnan University. The rooms are nice and clean, the breakfast is good and to my surprise they serve excellent strong cappuccino's. I have tried a pizza (a bit expensive but great taste) and the chickensalad (good). The nice terrace and ambiance contributed to a wonderful stay in Kunming!
I've eaten here several times and always enjoyed the food. For Kunming, the pizzas are quite good. In my opinion, substantially better than both As You Like and Slice of Heaven. The Pizza isn't perfect, but with the losses of Sandra's and The Box, I'm quite happy to go here for Pizza (haven't tried Rocco's yet). As a northeastern American, I'm always dreaming of finding a proper New York style slice, but some things are not meant to be.
I'm not sure if they are still making brunch with eggs Benedict and grilled tomatoes, as I don't see it on the online menu anymore. Having that one lazy Sunday with a coffee on the rooftop terrace was delightful. Losing that brunch would be a shame.
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I also had a bad experience here recently.
Honestly, I wish them the best of luck, but I do think the staff are poorly managed and the owners have the wrong attitude and a clear lack of experience in service-oriented business. While the pizza is OK, everything else I have tried (including overnight stay) can be had cheaper and better elsewhere, and the pizza at Roccos is better in my opinion. The service has always fluctuated between acceptable to don't care.
Since they don't have their situation resolved yet, and it has been a few years, I have made the decision not to go there anymore or send anyone else. It's just not worth the hassle, given the crappy location (masked as private or lost). Better pizza with more quiet and privacy on Roccos' terraces.
Wow, looking at these reviews its seems
very personal. I went and it was nice food,true though the service was bad and no one smiles and takes AGES to come. It seems there's a really unprofessional backlash by staff on here. wow, its the customers right to leave a review and I've never seen such an un-professional response. If my room was not made up for 5 days i'd be just as annoyed, let alone the other stuff. But hey LG is pretty good for food,service is to be desired.
Best pizza in town. Slice of Heaven's a close second, and a better value on their 20kuai pizza Fridays, but overall taste and selection goes to Lost Garden, hands down. I went there for the 3rd or 4th time for the pizza night last week. We sat on their roof terrace, which has been re-done very nicely since the last time I was there. The service was reasonable, and the waitresses even spoke some English! On a previous visit I had a pumpkin soup and a baked pasta, both delicious and well-presented. Anecdote: I was there once on a cold day a couple of months ago and the foreign manager (owner?) made my friend and I hot toddies upon request, even though they're not on the menu, and they were pretty much perfect. I have nothing negative to say about this place.
Funny that educated man's negative review seems to have been completely drowned out by positive reviews. And a response from the employee he called out.
I stayed at LG awhile back. No complaints. For the price you pay the accommodation is good value. The staff all provided good service in my experience.
Duly noted by everyone the pizza is good. In fact every meal I had was pretty good, minus one salad. Nowhere is perfect. Compared to what else is on offer in Kunming, its hard to beat. Will be back for the food.
We stayed at LG twice in March 2013, and loved it. The best rooms, off the roof terrace, were really nicely decorated, comfortable and everything worked! Someone's given some thought to fitting the rooms out, so for instance there lots of sockets so you can charge everything at once. We stayed one night in a room in the main building - cheaper and OK, but not as nice as the rooms off the terrace. We didn't eat there, except breakfast, which was fine. Staff were really friendly and helpful, and got various train/air tickets for us. We spent 3 weeks travelling in Yunnan and Hunan. This was definitely the nicest place we stayed.
Recently stayed at Lost Garden and Upland, which seem to be each other's only competitors in that neighborhood. I prefer Lost Garden— seems to be more comfortable rooms, and slightly better overall. I did spend one night in a horrible room there — one of their dorm rooms in the main building. It seems to have flooded and had one of the strongest mold odors I have ever smelled. But I had them move me the next day into another room (it was dorm 101, in the building that does not have a lobby or restaurant).
Definite room for improvement (roof terrace is not at all tended to, random boxes and stuff in hallways, very slow breakfast service), but as guesthouse/hostel options go in Kunming, it seems to be the best of the few things going.
'educatedman' may be 'educated', but still falling short of being a 'man'. 'they didn't make my bed mommy! AND they didn't smile at me!' grow up!
LG currently has the nicest staff in Kunming that I've experienced. If they're not 'smiling', perhaps they're a little tired from working. I bet you can't even smile when on vacation let alone working 8-10 hours/day, 6 days a week like the staff there. Or perhaps you always get bad service because YOU'RE not 'smiling'. :)
'educatedman', you need to get a little education about 'putting yourself in the position of others' before ripping into a business and the people that work there. btw, no one cares how 'educated' you are if you're a self-centered A$$...what an egotistical person you are for even choosing 'educatedman' for your screen name! laughable!
I absolutely love the food at Lost Garden, it is one of the few Western places I bother to go to in Kunming. Their pizza is great and their brunch menu is fantastic. Very nice atmosphere too! I've stayed in the dorms before and found them very clean, nothing too fancy of course but what do you expect when you pay 30kuai a night... Also, to reply to educatedman's review, I do not think you should expect your room to be cleaned everyday in a hostel/guesthouse, and you also have to bear in mind that not all staff members here speak perfect English, which might explain confusion and a lot of "I don't know"s which actually just mean "I don't understand".
Giving 5 stars to offset the ludicrous review below mine. I don't think lost garden is a five star place but it certainly isn't 0. Its a nice little guesthouse, that serves some of the better food in town, and my experience of the service was quite good. I will be back and recommend this place others.
Think wily53's review makes good points and I agree fully.
Now wonder the Lost Garden won the 2012 GoKunming prize for Best Guesthouse...it is simply the best place to stay in the city when you are on a budget. Forget other places, this is were its at.
The restaurant attached to the guesthouse is amazing as well. The pizzas are some of the best out there and the (almost) all day breakfasts are great as well.
Nothing really compares to the Lost Garden, an all around great place to eat and stay while in Kunming.
The hospitality industry is hard anywhere and especially in Kunming. I have been involved with some restaurants since 2000 and it is really hard to find and keep good staff. Workers leaving for gold in Guangzhou or local compeditors stealing your staff doesn't help the owners provide consistent top quality service. Those who complain about service should also consider the price they are paying for that service and not compare it with what you get in Western countries for a lot more money. I find many expats want Chinese prices and five star service. When is the last time you tipped a server? Over the years I have seen great but gradual improvements in Kunming. I hope you who give a hard review also give praise when it is deserved.
Been going to the Lost Garden for a while and never walked away disappointed with the food. They make the best pizza in Kunming and possibly all of China. Good sandwiches as well. Can't really say anything negative about the place, except that the kitchen is closed on Mondays.
Go there for the food and the atmosphere...and if you are travelling in China, I hear the rooms are quite comfortable as well. Plus, as probably the only establishment in Kunming, they actually have good English speaking service...imagine that!
It still be nice place to stay - I mean rooms and price - YES, but one year later from my first dinner there I must say, that quality and size of pizza and sandwiches is drasticly down. I was very dissapointed already a few times, so it is not occaisional fail - great food is just mo more there.:((
Overall very good brunch experience. Had the eggs benedict, which was a pleasant menu for a young city like Kunming. The bloody mary and coffee was also very good. Atmosphere is a cozy outdoor veranda feel which is lush and airy although amongst a few buildings. Hope they continue the focus on quality and innovation.
I have to update my earlier review. The food is still great but it seems that if the owners are working, everything is great. If the owners aren't there the service and the kitchen staff in particular is very poor. Today I tried to order two plates of pancakes for my kids. Breakfast is advertised until 5pm, but at 10am Iwas told they only had enough batter for one pancake and that they would not be making any more today. That's just terrible service. If you're only going to make one batch of pancake batter a day or don't have a kitchen staff that knows how to make more, don't advertise breakfast so late into the day.
I've stayed at many hotels and hostels in Asia. This has to be one of the best.
Great environment travelers and staff are warm and friendly. I think customers should be more patient. I guess some of the reviewers are hyper critical. Breakfast is wonderful – good coffee - brilliant bloody Mary's on the roof top . Pizza lovers should head to Pizza Da Rocco – Order the Capricciosa "autentico Italiano"
Have been going here since they opened. Thoroughly enjoy the pizzas and the authentic american-pizzeria-type salads!.
The staff, while not always attentive, is at least very nice and patient with language difficulties. Their English is pretty good compared to almost anywhere else in KM. Earlier service problems referenced below have long since been dealt with.
(Restaurant management tip: make sure that whatever place your front-of-house staff has to hang out while working, it has view of the tables so they can occasionally pick their heads up and see what's going on.)
New! They have revised their menu recently, with the option to have fresh tomatoes instead of tomato sauce! This is excellent, as I've previously had to order this myself so they seem to have gotten the idea.
However: Since they changed the menu, I have ordered pizza 3 times, both with sauce option A (just fresh tomatoes), and I have received option B every single time. (They aren't just reversed— I've ordered B and gotten B, also). Very frustrating!
The B sauce isn't terrible, but it's not a standard Neapolitan sauce (uncooked canned crushed tomatoes, a little minced garlic or garlic powder, sugar, and salt), but more of a Sicilian sauce (cooked tomatoes, onions, oregano). On a Sicilian thick-crust pizza it'd be great, but a Neapolitan crust deserves a Neapolitan sauce. Yes, I am a spoiled NYC food snob, but when the kitchen gets it right, it's quite fantastic, and I forget that I am in KM!
(Almost. Except for the cheese. If I opened a pizzeria I'd fly in Mozzarella di Bufala nightly, and each pie would cost 250RMB. Back to reality.)
New! they now have proper takeout pizza boxes, so I can grab a few pies to go and eat in front of the TV.
However: The pizza oven only fits one pie at a time, so it takes forever, especially if there are other customers ahead of you. By the time I get home one pie is still warm but the other is quite cold since it had to sit and wait while the other one cooked.
Please, Lost Garden, get your sauce ordering system right, and build a bigger pizza oven!
And delivery! Delivery would be unspeakably awesome, even though I'd probably gain 50lbs and go bankrupt since I'd use it so often.
I used to go to lost garden pretty often but recently, i was forced to stop. First of all, i am not sure if it is because of the high food price which has affected the quality of food. Everytime i went there, i ordered vietnamese chicken salad. It was good in the beginning but recently it looks more like cabbage salad with teeny bit of salty shredded chicken and five peanuts. Secondly, the wifi sucks. It is so bad i can barely go online. Its really frustrating that it takes more than ten minutes to load one page. I live close by green lake and now i would rather walk all the way to the cafes in wenlin st instead.
Best Sunday brunch experience in Kunming! A great selection of just the right type of food which goes down very well the morning after a heavy night. Jeroen is making dishes that not only taste great but are also very easy on the eyes. Add to that David's awesome Bloody Marys and the lovely rooftop terrace and you can't go wrong. True, things can be a bit hectic in the kitchen if it's busy, but be patient and you'll be well rewarded.
I'm starting to think this is the best Western food in Kunming. They don't have anything as upscale as Sandra's Friday steaks, and the menu is small, but the fluffy, blistered pizza crusts are a small miracle, and the brisket sandwich and Vietnamese chicken salad would be favorites at any small cafe in the states. We took a little while to come around to this conclusion, since a couple of our first visits were marred by too much bad sauce on the pizza and a couple instances of bad service, but the staff seems to be responding well to comments, and everything's been wonderful recently.
The cafe is also a great, quiet place to work in the afternoons with a smoothie or some coffee.
I've had nothing but good experiences at Lost Garden.
The owners are extremely considerate and nice people and clearly try very hard to make the experience of the guest their first priority.
A few isolated incidents are not a good reflection of the restaurant or the hostel. This place is awesome and will continue to be so.
I know it sounds like someone from the restaurant wrote this but that's not true. I just don't write reviews unless the character of my favorite establishments are attacked.
Been there 3 times, never had a good time with the service. Tonight, was served by an extremely sour, grumpy immature and unhelpful waitress. When entering was told that we couldn't sit on the rooftop because everything is broken upstairs and it was too windy for candles. When going upstairs to show my friend the rooftop, I found that this was far from the case, and there was hardly a breath of wind. The waitress also later brought her friends to the rooftop, giving them the service she felt we did not deserve. We were also rushed when making our food order at 8pm, and told that the kitchen would soon close.
She also sulked and complained when there was a few drops of water on one of the plates she was clearing, even though we provided help with clearing the table. When asking her what the matter was, she ignored us, only to later come back 5 minutes later with a rant that she yelled at us.
We won't be back until the service improves.
PS- Get some boxes for leftovers instead of the shitty plastic bags that you use.
I am a huge fan of the Lost Garden. I come here often to eat, and as everyone says the pizza is excellent, even for American standards. I also love the gnocchi, Thai chicken salad, soup, and the chicken sandwich. The staff is friendly and accommodating, and the prices are reasonable for the quality.
I also recently stayed here in a dorm room for 10 days and had a great time. The location is excellent, the hotel is quiet, and they really paid attention to details when designing the rooms. The dorm beds are very large and cozy, and there is a ton of storage space around the bottom bunks. The drapes make the beds feel very private. All of the rooms have wifi, and the bathroom was clean and modern.
I have stayed in 6 small hotels/hostels in China and this one was definitely my favorite. And as a Kunming resident, whenever I am craving pizza this is the only restaurant I will settle for! Great job all around.
Environment - excellent 5/5! Great roof top, excellent indoor area, perfect lighting and cosy! I hope your rooms are like this, I will recommend friends to stay!
Food, we had gnochi, Vietnamese salad, mushroom pizza. The Vietnamese salad was the best (lacking some ingredients, but hao chi!), the gnochi was not tasty and tasted like it came from a can or jar or something. Not good.
So I was looking forward to the pizza which apparently is excellent! Well... it wasn't for us. The base is excellent, however we got the mushroom pizza and it had soo much garlic and onion on it, it was pretty much all we could taste. The sauce they use must come from a can or something as it has a metallic preservative taste to it that doesn't add to the flavour. The pizza looked good, but the garlic & onlion overload killed any other taste. We couldn't taste the cheese on it even it was that strong! Definitely no mushroom taste! We didn't finish it.
Make your own sauce (if you already do, change the recipe!). Don't use too much, at times it overloaded the onion and garlic flavour.
A SMALL amount of garlic and onion.
More mushroom or fry the mushroom in a little butter first to bring out the taste.
Perfect base and cheese.
Don't make the pizza topping so thick (you will save money and it will taste better)!
Great shape (loveheart for valentines!) and texture.
So sorry, won't be back for the food for a while, there are much better western places.
The staff are attentive and friendly and bilingual (at least!), however you should WRITE DOWN ORDERS. OK, so you might think its cool not to write orders but forgetting what people ordered is much less cool. A simple order ticket system is needed.
I went there yesterday afternoon with every intention of getting a pizza. But when I got the menu it said very clearly that pizza and pasta are not available until after 5pm (the wood-fired oven has to warm up). Just a heads up to everyone. The brisket sandwich was an awesome substitute for the pizza.
I decided to try out this place a while ago. I'm a frequent visitor of Kunming and I usually stay at The Hump. Not any more. Lovely people, excellent food, all the help I needed in buying a last minute plane ticket and, above all, a really nice - and warm! - room on the roof.
I'll be staying with them a lot!
On a cold Sunday night there was just nothing more satisfying than having a proper wood-fired pizza, a greek salad, a bowl of pumpkin soup, and a big glass of house red all wrapped up in a snug and cosy environment. Keep up the good work lost garden.
I haven't stayed there, but have been for the pizza twice. both times were very good. crust and sauce are consistent, beer and wine selection is well-stocked. very comfortable atmosphere. five stars if the wait staff can pull it all together.
The menu selection is simple, but the pizza is great. There was a promotion today so I also got a free salad and a glass of white wine. A bargain for only 65yuan. I saw the rooms also and it looks neat and clean. Definitely a place I will consider staying the next time I'm in Kunming! Only thing is the place is a bit hard to find. More signage would be helpful.
Love this place! The pizza is amazing and the nicely-decorated rooftop terrace just completes everything. The people who work there are really friendly and fun to talk with. Definitely one of my new favorite places in Kunming! It hasn't even been a day since I went and I'm already craving the pizza...
I just went to the opening of the Lost Garden Guesthouse close to Green Lake and they've got this huge brick oven pizza that's churning out the best pizza I've had not only in Kunming but all of frick'n China! And believe me everyone there was saying the same frick'n thing I am totally serious. Awesomeness! The sauce, insane flavor. Definitely not some processed bagged sauce. I'm a crust guy and the crust is crispy on the bottom and holds holds together well so you can pick it up and eat it proper pizza style. None of this knife and fork under-cooked thin crust blech nonsense I've seen before. And I'm not one of those guys that doesn't eat the whole slice and throws away the bready goodness at the end. I'm the guy the eats your thrown away bready goodness at the end and I'm telling you there is bready goodness at the end of these slices! The whole awesome bubble in the dough and everything. Oh gawd ding it I want to go back right now! If you can read this you probably like pizza so do yourself a favor and seek this joint out! It's about a 3 minute walk from The Green Lake Hotel but once you're there you'd never know it. The atmosphere is like a hug. It's totally cozy, comfortable and feels like your in a tree fort. Get there and tell them Large Marge sent you!
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